kdepim4.5

[Eli Wapniarski]

Quoting Patrick Boutilier <boutilpj at ednet.ns.ca>:

> On 07/04/2010 01:53 AM, Eli Wapniarski wrote:
>> On Saturday 03 July 2010 23:43:40 Eike Hein wrote:
>>> On 07/03/2010 06:56 PM, Eli Wapniarski wrote:
>>>> Fine. K. then. I guess I am getting confused. But that means that I will
>>>> not always know what package goes with what package which means that I
>>>> will not be able to rely on the relative stability of whats coming out
>>>> of kde-redhat. Bummer really since I've been with the repo for a very
>>>> very long time. Bummer, because I won't have the resources to be able to
>>>> help, what little I can, because I'm never going to be sure of how tight
>>>> the integration between all the packages are going to be in the repo
>>>> that they're sitting in. Bummer since kde-redhat has become an extension
>>>> of the kde release cycle rather than the kde packaged for fedora release
>>>> cycle. I guess that once 4.5 goes gold I will have to rely only on
>>>> Fedora's stable packaging. I guess that's OK, because I know that the
>>>> final product when its finally going to be released is going to be
>>>> great. Really a bummer for me though, because I have enjoyed very much
>>>> watching how each full release has progressed over time.
>>>
>>> You're not making any sense there, to be honest.
>>>
>>> The situation with kdepim is that it won't be ready to be released
>>> with KDE 4.5.0, but only a bit later; it is going to be released
>>> with 4.5.1 or 4.5.2. Hence kdepim is currently at beta1, while
>>> the rest of the KDE SC is already at rc1.
>>>
>>> However, kde-unstable has already shipped both KDE SC 4.5 beta1
>>> and beta2 (as well as betas of previous KDE SC releases, including
>>> the respective kdepim betas!), so kde-unstable is obviously OK to
>>> cary beta-level KDE releases for a long time.
>>>
>>> There's a beta of a kdepim release. It's going into kde-unstable.
>>> Just like the beta of kdepim 4.4. And 4.3. And 4.2. ...
>>>
>>> There's nothing unusual about this, except that the production
>>> release of kdepim 4.5 is delayed a bit beyond the release of the
>>> rest of the SC.
>>>
>>>> Eli
>>
>> The fuss is.... The developers are saying that kdepim 4.5 is not ready for
>> prime time and will not be released with kde 4.5. In unstable we 
>> have the kde
>> 4.5 packages. We are all testing kde 4.5 not 4.5.1. It is not 
>> unforseable that
>> me you or someone else, on purpose or by accident or for whatever reason
>> installs kdepim 4.5 on a production desktop. Could be they are not 
>> part of the
>> mailing list. Or missed the statements that kdepim is not going to 
>> be released
>> with 4.5. Now.... lets assume that there are even minor changes to the way
>> kdepim talks to akonadi. The database changes. Queries change. Imap 
>> databases
>> get corrupted. Addressbook data gets modified. Now.... rollback. Exactly how
>> does one propse that gets done.
>>
>> Yes there is the risk that can happen with schedualed for release versions.
>> Its happened already. Hasn't it?
>
> People use kde-unstable on a production desktop? :-)
>
>
>
>>
>> Eli

When Rex releases. I trust. Its been that way ever since Redhat 8. So yes, people do (at least I do) use kde-unstable. Mostly because of the amazingly good work initiated by Rex and kde-redhat. And kde 4.5 RC1 works with little if any annoyances. And for me qt 4.7 fixed Akonadi / kontact startup. For me... Rex releases. I trust.

kde-redhat has always been a testing ground for integration previously with redhat  and currently with fedora. It is not a QA environment for kde. Please don't turn it into one. My feeling is that it will negatively impact on the number of people willing to install and test initially built packages for fedora. And if the developers themselves are not willing to endorse.

But maybe that's me. Could be that I'm weird :)

Eli


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