Harmless KDE feature upgrades - yeah right
Martin Kho
lists.kho at gmail.com
Thu Mar 4 13:05:32 UTC 2010
> On Thursday 04 March 2010 13:13:18 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > On 03/04/2010 05:13 PM, Juha Tuomala wrote:
> > > This is exactly kind off stuff I don't have time now to solve,
> > > since I need to work. If such upgrade would have been put to
> > > next coming release, I could have upgraded when I have time,
> > > some weekend - it would not interrupted my working and ruin my
> > > day.
> >
> > Yes and it does happen now and then that updates like these cause end
> > users some pain and while some users love to tinker and play with new
> > features others see it as a hindrance even if it is purely enhancement
> > with no regressions because even UI changes cause disruption in workflow
> > setting aside all the possibility of regressions and I dont believe that
> > Fedora has the right balance between innovation and stability (not
> > merely robustness but any change for that matter) at the moment (CentOS
> > is far removed and rawhide is far too bleeding edge)
> >
> > Whether it would be a separate backports repo or merely some more
> > conservativeness in our update stream needs to be discussed and the
> > current discussion has brought up very polarised opinions and at this
> > point it would be useful to discuss detailed proposals than continuously
> > repeating the same points in a circle
> >
> > For your specific case please file bug reports
>
> We (some KDE SIG people) are currently working on so called stability
> proposal [1]. That means one bigger update per release as KDE schedules
> are not in sync with Fedora releases. So this means - Fn release of Fedora
> is getting updates and users will get fresh software (rawhide is not an
> option), Fn-1 is considered as stable, without any "mayor" updates but
> it's still quite fresh so users don't have (are not forced) to switch to
> brand new release, probably breaking more than just update.
>
> One of reasons we can be now much more conservative is that KDE is now in
> very good shape and few releases ago we couldn't let users with for
> example 4.0, 4.1 releases. Now it's not so important to do big steps as
> changes are not so visible
>
> FKDESCo is going to vote probably on next meeting, Tuesday 09 14:00 UTC. So
> please, Fedora KDE users - comment these changes! We're working for you!
> CC'ing kde at lists.fpo.
>
> [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Stability_Proposal
Hi,
To me, its good to hear that KDE SIG is choosing quality above regular -
sometimes dirty - updates. Toyota can tell exactly what happens when you
neglect quality :-)
Martin Kho
>
> Jaroslav
>
> > Rahul
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