address book problems

Eli Wapniarski eli at orbsky.homelinux.org
Tue Mar 23 17:51:35 UTC 2010


On Tuesday 23 March 2010 15:34:26 Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 March 2010 12:20:24 Jan Simonson wrote:
> > tisdag 23 mars 2010 skrev Anne Wilson:
> > > As you well know, KDE is not a commercial company, with paid employees
> > > working  9 to 5.  KDE is a community of people who give their best,
> > > mostly in their spare time, but sometimes fail to understand what a
> > > hash we can all make with tweaking our own systems.  Yes there have
> > > been problems, but the developers have been responsive in helping us
> > > to identify them and fix them.
> > 
> > Most of us do understand this and we appreciate all the work done by the
> > developers, package maintainers and documentation writers. We also like
> > KDE, why would we use it if we didn't?
> > 
> > However, the present situation in a core utility, PIM, risks making
> > people leave KDE for other systems. After all PIM is not just any
> > program, it's where I keep all my personal information!
> > 
> > > I know some people are annoyed, but try to be rational about this.  As
> > > long as  some of us can say 'it works for me', we have to accept that
> > > the cause of problems may not be in the actual software package.
> > 
> > The last couple of months or so I have silently followed the discussions
> > about the implementation of Akonadi on this list and avoided the testing
> > repository. This is my production system and I want it to be as stable as
> > possible. Last week I upgraded to 4.4.1 from stable. After a lot of work
> > and following the advise given by you and others I now _seem_ to have a
> > stable "Personal Contacts" address-book where I can add, remove and edit
> > contacts. Somehow they also are saved although they don't show up in
> > ~/.local/share/contacts/ until later.
> > 
> > If I click on an email-address in AddressBook a "new mail" window in
> > Kmail opens with the address in the to-field just as expected. If, on
> > the other hand, I open a "new mail" window from Kmail and try to select
> > a contact I'm presented a list which reflects the situation before the
> > migration to Akonadi. Any changes or new entries are not there! I guess,
> > without knowing, that Kmail still reads the old
> > ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf while Akonadi only updates
> > ~/.local/share/contacts/ .
> > 
> > Using Kmail gradually becomes much harder as more and more contacts are
> > added or changed. You now have to look up each contact manually in
> > AddressBook instead of just typing the name in the to-field. Even worse,
> > as you loose track of which addresses have changed you risk using
> > outdated addresses!
> > 
> > How can an update be pushed as "stable" from upstream with a regression
> > like this?
> 
> Indeed, this release was the second worst one after 4.0 release - mostly
> due to Aconadi. I like Akonadi ideas, I'm big fan of it but... We should
> push upstream to do more work on the release testing (we try to help as
> much as possible through packaging beta stuff etc.).
> 
> Do you experience this bug - KMail starts in session but before it's ready
> Akonadi says, it's stopping itself. KMail exits, has to be started manually
> again (same for KAddressBook) etc. Do we have bug report for this? Upstream
> bug report? My colleague next to me experience the same problem. If there's
> no bug, I'll report one.
> 

Yep... I experience this bug all the time. It essentially tells me it can't 
find some resource and then quits.

Eli

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