KDE 4.5 libraries problem with Skype

[Manuel Escudero]

2010/9/5 Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at>

> Manuel Escudero wrote:
> > Does this mean we're not having Skype in Fedora 14 KDE Spin as it's going
> > to be based on KDE 4.5?
>
> No. It was a screwed up setup on your end, as the replies have evidenced.
>
> And FWIW, the version of kdelibs (4.5.x) is irrelevant for Skype (and the
> rest of the KDE stuff even more so), only Qt matters. Skype does not use
> any
> KDE libraries.
>
> > Many users need skype (in my case I'm running it in a Windows 7 VM) But
> > without it we can't offer reliable "Videocalls" as they're not
> implemented
> > in IM Clients Linux have.
>
> Nonsense. Ekiga and several other applications support video calls just
> fine, cross-platform and using the standard SIP protocol.
>
> > And please do not start with fanaticism about opensource, as I said in
> > ambassadors mailing list:
>
> What you call "fanaticism about opensource" is one of Fedora's core
> principles. If you don't believe in it, you should really reconsider being
> an Ambassador for Fedora!
>
> > Well, I know about the free alternatives, what I'm discussing here is
> that
> > many users USE SKYPE. We have free software but we can't tell those users
> > who use skype: CANCEL YOUR SKYPE ACCOUNT BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE FREE.
>
> Sure you can. Skype accounts are free, only communication from/to phones is
> charged for, so they wouldn't even lose money.
>
> You can also tell them to run a second VoIP app using the standard SIP
> protocol in parallel (i.e. keeping Skype too), there's nothing which stops
> them from doing that either.
>
> > We, as ambassadors, are supposed to help the user and this is an issue
> > that is going to affect many skype users in fedora 14 KDE unless someone
> > finds a solution.
>
> This is already solved, but if it weren't, we wouldn't care. We do not
> support proprietary software, never have, never will. If it works, good for
> you, if it breaks, you get to keep the pieces.
>
> > Yes, we have free software, but tell me: Any of our free software
> supports
> > skype's protocol? The answer is NO.
>
> That's exactly why using Skype is so harmful, not only do you force
> yourself
> into using proprietary software, but the other end as well!
>
> > and by "demonizing" skype's use you're commiting fanaticism...
>
> I call it "believing in the value of freedom".
>
> > If GNU/LINUX and OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE is what matters to you, change to
> > UTUTO or GNEWSENSE as Fedora isn't considered COMPLETELY OPEN SOURCE by
> > the Gnu Foundation.
>
> Fedora considers itself to be 100% Free. There is a known disagreement with
> the FSF over the issue of firmware, but as Skype is definitely NOT
> firmware,
> this is irrelevant.
>
> Fedora believes strongly in freedom, it's one of our core objectives. If
> this isn't what matters to you, change to some distribution which doesn't
> care, e.g. Linux Mint.
>
>        Kevin Kofler
>
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@Everyone: I'm not interested in following this thread anymore, thanks! :)

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