Hi Rex, Any idea on the likelihood of there being a dbus upgrade for F13 that will fix Bug 208921? http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=208921 I tried installing the dbus-1.4 from koji (F14 build), but that drags in the whole of systemd... Would try upgrading to F14 beta, but it seems somewhat iffy at the moment and this is my main machine. cheers M.