F22 KDE Systray Issue

[Reindl Harald]

does the same application work on the Fedora default desktop (GNOME)?
if the answer is yes KDE is to blame, period

Am 24.07.2015 um 06:59 schrieb Eric Griffith:
> Reindl, I bash on a lot of design decision from the KDE and GNOME camps
> alike, but this wasn't one of them. Xembed had to go, it was a design
> nightmare. As far as who's fault it is.. I really gotta go with the apps
> on this one. They had four -years- of warning that the "traditional"
> xembed way of sys tray icons was going away eventually. If they couldnt
> find time to port over to Status Notifiers / App Indicators by then that
> that's their problem / or the project is dead anyway.
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 12:44 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net
> <mailto:h.reindl at thelounge.net>> wrote:
>
>
>     Am 24.07.2015 um 03:16 schrieb Markus Slopianka:
>
>         On Thursday 23 July 2015 13:32:58 Emilio Recio wrote:
>
>             Does anyone know of an app that can implement xembed feature?
>
>
>         http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
>
>
>             Pidgin
>
>
>         https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/rvokal/pidgin-indicator/
>
>
>             This is a major fail for KDE, IMNSHO.
>
>
>         Wrong. It's a major fail for your applications
>
>
>     strange attitude - if *non-kde* apps have problems with the systray
>     and did not before KDE5 it's hardly a failure of the application,
>     it's *again* a incompatible and ignorant regression as it happens
>     every few years so that i even start asking myself "am i right in my
>     mind to use linux desktop"
>
>     "fail for your applications" - WTF - the world of application
>     developers don't turn around KDE and broken desktops, i heard the
>     same b**** with the over a year flickering control bar with KDE 4.0
>     in combination with nvidia cards - the same - it worked befor
>     KDE3->KDE4, so KDE is the problem and not the card and it's the job
>     of a developer to handle it if it has worked before AND NO "it's
>     free" don't justify carelessly while whine every year why linux
>     desktops are a niche and how to change that
>
>     if developers like linux desktops no longer be a niche the just need
>     to stop user visible major changes and breaking things which worked
>     and are in use - that's it, no Fedora.next, just don't break the
>     user expierience once per year and you will stop lose existing ones
>     and get new ones which no longer need to fear that their workflow
>     get broken again and again

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