F22 KDE Systray Issue

Eric Griffith egriffith92 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 24 05:20:12 UTC 2015


Don't have my laptop in front of me to confirm but my guess is no. Moving
away from Xembed and dropping support for it in a too-be-decided future
version of the desktop environments was announced in 2011 with the advent
of Status Notifiers and libappindicator.
On Jul 24, 2015 01:12, "Reindl Harald" <h.reindl at thelounge.net> wrote:

> does the same application work on the Fedora default desktop (GNOME)?
> if the answer is yes KDE is to blame, period
>
> Am 24.07.2015 um 06:59 schrieb Eric Griffith:
>
>> Reindl, I bash on a lot of design decision from the KDE and GNOME camps
>> alike, but this wasn't one of them. Xembed had to go, it was a design
>> nightmare. As far as who's fault it is.. I really gotta go with the apps
>> on this one. They had four -years- of warning that the "traditional"
>> xembed way of sys tray icons was going away eventually. If they couldnt
>> find time to port over to Status Notifiers / App Indicators by then that
>> that's their problem / or the project is dead anyway.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 12:44 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net
>> <mailto:h.reindl at thelounge.net>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     Am 24.07.2015 um 03:16 schrieb Markus Slopianka:
>>
>>         On Thursday 23 July 2015 13:32:58 Emilio Recio wrote:
>>
>>             Does anyone know of an app that can implement xembed feature?
>>
>>
>>
>> http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
>>
>>
>>             Pidgin
>>
>>
>>         https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/rvokal/pidgin-indicator/
>>
>>
>>             This is a major fail for KDE, IMNSHO.
>>
>>
>>         Wrong. It's a major fail for your applications
>>
>>
>>     strange attitude - if *non-kde* apps have problems with the systray
>>     and did not before KDE5 it's hardly a failure of the application,
>>     it's *again* a incompatible and ignorant regression as it happens
>>     every few years so that i even start asking myself "am i right in my
>>     mind to use linux desktop"
>>
>>     "fail for your applications" - WTF - the world of application
>>     developers don't turn around KDE and broken desktops, i heard the
>>     same b**** with the over a year flickering control bar with KDE 4.0
>>     in combination with nvidia cards - the same - it worked befor
>>     KDE3->KDE4, so KDE is the problem and not the card and it's the job
>>     of a developer to handle it if it has worked before AND NO "it's
>>     free" don't justify carelessly while whine every year why linux
>>     desktops are a niche and how to change that
>>
>>     if developers like linux desktops no longer be a niche the just need
>>     to stop user visible major changes and breaking things which worked
>>     and are in use - that's it, no Fedora.next, just don't break the
>>     user expierience once per year and you will stop lose existing ones
>>     and get new ones which no longer need to fear that their workflow
>>     get broken again and again
>>
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