Systray (was Re: F22 / KDE5)

[Reindl Harald]

Am 15.09.2015 um 19:51 schrieb Eli Wapniarski:
> Finally.... Someone gets the idea... Make sure the old stuff works before
> moving on to the new stuff
>
> Yay!!!!

tell that the Fedora people which think they can repeat the same game 
with every KDE major upgrade with their users aas well as a ignornat 
upstream *not care* for users - if upstream wants to develop some study 
they should state so and not calling it a "desktop environment" for users

YOU AND I CAN NOT MAKE SURE ANYTHING - the support window for F21 with 
KDE4 is nearly closing - otherwise i would not have upgraded - i needed 
to do that now because there are people which i recommended Fedora years 
ago and if need to bite the bad things before they need to upgrade wich 
is *my* responsibility, a responsibility developers don#t show AND NO i 
also don#t get payed for!

> On Tuesday 15 September 2015 19:44:09 Reindl Harald wrote:
>> here you go: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1233017
>>
>> "Ksystraycmd won't work in Plasma 5, because it still uses the legacy
>> XEmbed protocol" - well, a developers homework is to port first his own
>> stuff *before* blame others that they need to switch and change something
>>
>> Am 15.09.2015 um 19:42 schrieb Reindl Harald:
>>> Am 15.09.2015 um 19:30 schrieb Emilio Recio:
>>>> Hrm... odd on how you can still "Place in System Tray" checkbox in the
>>>> Advanced Options for creating a link to application... but then I get
>>>> the error:
>>>>
>>>> KDEInit could not launch 'ksystraycmd':
>>>> Could not open library '/usr/lib/libkdeinit5_ksystraycmd'.
>>>> Cannot load library /usr/lib/libkdeinit5_ksystraycmd:
>>>> (/usr/lib/libkdeinit5_ksystraycmd.so: cannot open shared object file: No
>>>> such file or directory)
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if it's a fedora thing or KDE thing...
>>>
>>> a KDE thing, ksystraycmd was not ported to KF5 until now while the UI
>>> does nothing else at put it in the .desktop file as result using that
>>> checkbox, the same happens for anything which had the setting already
>>>
>>> KF5 is at best pre-beta quality and the Fedora kde SIG honestly should
>>> have realized that *before* throw it to long years users - i still seek
>>> for any user visible improvement and have not found a single one
>>>
>>>> On 09/15/15 11:57, Rex Dieter wrote:
>>>>> Reindl Harald wrote:
>>>>>> Am 15.09.2015 um 17:46 schrieb Eric Griffith:
>>>>>>> On Sep 15, 2015 11:01 AM, "Emilio Recio"
>>>>>>> <Emilio.Recio at jefferson.edu
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <mailto:Emilio.Recio at jefferson.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>    > But the point that I am trying to make is that KF5 should have
>>>>>>>    > provided for a transitional phase for developers. Both
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> side-by-side.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > Further, what is the argument for the new standard. The only
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thing I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > read was "you can make your icons prettier and in the right size".
>>>>>>>    > This is not an excuse for removing basic functionality,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is also the fact that the xembed specification had thumbnails
>>>>>>> hardcoded to a specific size (22px by 22px) which was making them look
>>>>>>> like crap on even my 1080p monitor, let alone 4k ones
>>>>>>
>>>>>> well, i prefer something looking like crap when the other option is
>>>>>> don#t have it at all
>>>>>
>>>>> And... now we've come full circle, you have a "looking like crap"
>>>>> option,
>>>>> use wmsystemtray

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