Will F20 release with a 3.12 kernel now that it has slipped?

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 08:20:57 +0000,
   "\"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson\"" <johannbg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>On 11/01/2013 06:23 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>>On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Bruno Wolff III<bruno at wolff.to>  wrote:
>>>>Has F20 slipped enough that now it is practical to release with a 3.12
>>>>kernel?
>>No.  We'd have to ship Beta with 3.12 for any of us to be remotely
>>comfortable with that, and shoving that in a week before Beta (and
>>getting a freeze exception for it) isn't going to happen.
>
>So you consider a zero day update to the GA is somewhat better then 
>the testing the kernel would receive between beta and final?

There is an advantage to doing a zero day update in that the media is less 
likely to be unusable by people if it uses a kernel that received wider 
testing. If the 3.12 kernel fails, they can fall back to using 3.11 fairly 
easily.

There isn't anything that requires 3.12 to go out as a zero day update. We 
could wait until the release to put it in update-testing so it would get 
wider testing before being pushed as an update.