[PATCH] Build in IPMI on x86
Prarit Bhargava
prarit at redhat.com
Thu Feb 20 01:53:10 UTC 2014
On 02/19/2014 08:50 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Prarit Bhargava <prarit at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 02/18/2014 02:39 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 02:28:55PM -0500, Prarit Bhargava wrote:
>>>
>>>> The problem is that we've seen users (especially those using clusters) who do
>>>> not want ipmi built in. Their systems generate a tonne of ipmi traffic on their
>>>> systems which they want to ignore. Building IPMI into the kernel results in
>>>> situations where processing these messages causes kipmi to climb to 100% for
>>>> long periods of time.
>>>
>>> If the system firmware is sending messages then the default assumption
>>> ought to be that it's doing so for a reason.
>>
>> It is -- it's likely sending health or power information back to the BMC. But
>> that's not the issue. Clusters (and others) don't care about the BMC on a
>> particular system so they disable IPMI.
>
> Is there an option in the firmware to have it not send those reports?
Unfortunately no.
> I realize tweaking firmware options is somewhat of a pain, but if
> you're doing your initial cluster setup it seems worthwhile to just
> turn it off at the source...
It isn't just clusters -- do a search on "centos kipmi 100%" and you'll see many
hits from general users who have seen the same thing.
>
>>>> Maybe that can be solved through an 'ipmi=off' option, or maybe off should be
>>>> the default state for handling of these messages?
>>>
>>> You can disable the various ipmi_si probings via the tryacpi, trydmi and
>>> so on options.
>>
>> That's not intuitive. The current options are awful; one has to specify three
>> kernel parameters IIRC. Keep it simple with "ipmi=off", and maybe a /sys
>> variable to do it at runtime as well (although ... maybe the ipmi_si module
>> parameters are available already?).
>
> There's a number of options already. force_kipmid and
> kipmid_max_busy_us seem pretty relevant in addition to the ones
> Matthew mentioned.
>
> Or if you want a global off switch, I'm sure upstream would be happy
> to take a patch for it with sufficient reasoning.
>
I can push for that.
>>
>> I don't get that from the reports I've seen. I think the issue is that there is
>> just a huge volume of traffic on these systems. Googling for "centos kipmi
>> 100%" has a lot of hits; we seemingly made a bad choice when we built in IPMI.
>> There is a glimmer of hope we can switch back to modular in RHEL.
>
> Has anyone tested something more recent to see if this is still a
> problem? Upstream is taking the patch to default to =y, so keeping it
> =m in Fedora is possible but it seems like we'd diverge for a use case
> that is fairly infrequent for Fedora.
I'll see if I can convince someone to run a test with F20.
P.
>
> josh
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