Moving joydev back into the main modules package

[Harald Hoyer]

On 12.05.2015 09:00, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 12-05-15 03:22, poma wrote:
>> On 11.05.2015 20:05, Hans de Goede wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 11-05-15 18:50, Peter Robinson wrote:
>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> This weekend I lost 2 hours figuring out why supertuxkart would not
>>>>> recognize a standard logitech usb gamepad.
>>>>>
>>>>> After 2 hours I found out that the problem is that some games
>>>>> need to joydev module to interact with usb-hid devices as
>>>>> the use the /dev/js interface rather then the /dev/input/event#
>>>>> interface, once I had installed kernel-modules-extras everything
>>>>> just worked, the module auto loaded stk recognized the gamepad
>>>>> and things just worked (tm) which is what I believe is the
>>>>> experience we want to offer ootb.
>>>>>
>>>>> Therefor I would like to request for the joydev module to be
>>>>> moved from kernel-modules-extras into the main kernel-modules
>>>>> package.
>>>>
>>>> A bunch of games use the means we now have to specify a "Requires:
>>>> kernel-module(joydev)" style syntax so it doesn't matter where the
>>>> module resides (sorry, don't know the exact syntax offhand).
>>>
>>> I do not think that sprinkling "Requires: kernel-module(joydev)"
>>> all over the place for something which is really just core functionality
>>> which apps should be able to rely on is a good idea. Esp. not when
>>> we are talking about a module which is 6784 bytes on the filesystem.
>>>
>>> Also these requires have funny side effects, they cause dnf to
>>> install kernel-debug rather then kernel-modules-extra when the
>>> module is not already present on the system which sorta defeats the
>>> purpose.
>>>
>>
>> What rhbz is it?
> 
> The one which you are going to create for it ?
> 
> Just do: "dnf install joystick-support" on an F-22 system without
> kernel-modules-extra installed to reproduce.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Hans

In that context, may I ask, if /dev/js* still has to be world readable?

/lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules:SUBSYSTEM=="input", KERNEL=="js[0-9]*",
MODE="0664"