[Fedora-livecd-list] bootloader --append="noapic" does nothing?
Jon Steer
jsteer at bitscout.com
Wed Feb 20 20:59:06 UTC 2008
The kernel is the issue.. I tried a number of things, but finally had to
regress back. If you have a tweak I'd LOVE to know what it is.
thanks,
jon
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 10:16 -0800, Asheesh Laroia wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Feb 2008, Jeremy Katz wrote:
> > >> Alas, the resulting disc still does not pass "noapic" to the kernel.
> > >> What am I supposed to do?
> > >
> > > Which version of livecd-tools are you using for building your image?
> >
> > I'm running the version that yum installed on Fedora 8.
> [snip]
> > Is that a good version to be running? If not, what's the proper way to
> > get a fresher version?
>
> Yes, should be fine. I'm just trying to rule out "we broke it moving
> all the code around" as rawhide/current git right now has a lot moved
> around :) Looking at the rev, though, it doesn't look like we listen
> to --append (although we probably should)
>
> > > But note if you're doing this for a general-purpose image, you almost
> > > certainly don't want to add 'noapic' to the default. While it may
> help
> > > the specific machine you've tested on, it will cause problems on
> _more_
> > > machines.
> >
> > Hmm. Then what is a reasonable way to build an image that doesn't fail
> on
> > neither that Dell in the corner nor on other people's machines?
> >
> > It's a pretty catastrophic failure on that machine, and I'd frankly
> rather
> > the system run slowly on some machines and never catastrophically fail
> > rather than catastrophically fail on some machines and work perfectly on
> > others.
>
> Running with noapic is a catastrophic failure for machines too. The
> right thing is to get the kernel bug fixed. Otherwise, you're just
> changing out one problem set for another one. And the kernel running in
> noapic mode is far far far far far less tested across hardware than the
> defaults.
>
> > Unrelated issue: the images I generate last night based on Fedora 8 +
> > Fedora 8 updates fail to boot, complaining presumably from the initrd:
>
> Has 2.6.24 landed in Fedora 8 updates? I vaguely remember having to make
> a tweak for it to work with livecd-tools, but I'm not remembering what that
> tweak was anymore
>
> Jeremy
>
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