Fedora Core 3: Cruising The Bleeding Edge
sundaram at redhat.com
Thu Jun 2 11:32:07 UTC 2005
I came across your review of Fedora Core 3 (
http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/5670/1/). I would like
point out that your characterisation of Fedora Project as "This is the
playground for Red Hat engineers and random volunteer developers to go
nuts and try out wacky new things, and users get to play along" is
* Fedora Projects has a core as well as extras repository both of which
has a publicly accessible revision control system at
* Fedora core is entirely maintained by Red Hat developers
* Fedora Extras is a repository of contributors who package software
that is developed in sync with Fedora core
While Fedora project is intended to less conservative than Red Hat
Enterprise Linux and have a faster release cycle, it is certainly not a
"lets get crazy" thing . Packaging in both core and extras goes through
a good amount of QA before releases. some of the bugs like the udev one
in the Fedora Core 3 release are unfortunate and should be avoided but
thats not a result of developers being "wacky".
Moving on to the next parts, I appreciate your recommendation to read
the release notes. This is something users frequently miss out. Linking
to the release notes within your review would have been a good idea too.
"A heavily-patched 2.6.9 kernel (currently 2.6.9-1.667). Note that Red
Hat always modifies kernels extensively; this is not unusual."
Dave Jones, the Kernel maintainer for Fedora has provided the following
links which explain these patches.
Fedora Core 3- http://people.redhat.com/davej/patchlist-fc3.txt
Development tree - http://people.redhat.com/davej/patchlist-rawhide.txt
As you can see for yourself the patches are minor and necessary. Fedora
Project has a goal of staying close to upstream as much as possible
however Fedora releases are time based while the upstream kernel
development releases are not and hence some of the patches that fixes
important things are available in Fedora kernel till it gets merged
upstream in the subsequent releases. Adding patches is a maintainance
issue and developers prefer not to do that within reasonable limitations
so an extensive amount of patches are not scalable as well as unusual
for any package in Fedora.
On services running unecessarily, some of these including the pcmcia
services running unnecessarily on a desktop system has been fixed in the
development tree. More works needs to be done on that area. You have
mentioned that a GNOME menu editor is not available in Fedora Core 3.
While this is not a Fedora specific issue, I consider it a important one
neverthless, Smeg (http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/) is
currently under review
for packaging in Fedora Extras repository (enabled by default in Fedora
Core 4) hopefully alleviates this problem to a extend till we get a menu
editor as part of GNOME 2.12
Thank you for taking the time to review a Fedora release.
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