Cool Fedora schwag idea

seth vidal skvidal at
Mon Jun 27 22:08:14 UTC 2005

On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 17:54 -0400, seth vidal wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 23:45 +0200, Alex Maier wrote:
> > A great idea indeed, but it wil only pull in the States. I'm trying to
> > think of something cool that would work outside of US context...
> > 
> > Just brainstorming around pins and jackets some more--I see a black
> > jacket in punk-rocker look studded with pins and buttons of all sorts
> > and sizes, some of which would be available for all, while others
> > would have to be earned...
> > 
> I have a crazy idea:
> how about we stop coming up with crap to give people and maybe, you
> know, just be appreciative and remove roadblocks to further work.
> To spend less time on the tchotchke and more time on the content.
> I'm thinking take all the money for jackets and get some
> alternative-build-arch machines so the people who are packaging things
> for extras with no access to the systems can build there. Fine, maybe
> they can't be at rh for security concerns, but I might be able to host
> them at duke. Or maybe get some more folks doing some infrastructure
> bits and being paid for a month or so to get it done. Or get some
> CD/DVD's burnt and mailing out to random people who might request them.
> Anyway - I think it'd be more constructive to follow out those paths and
> to use whatever resources fedora has available to it for that end rather
> than 'letterman' jackets.
> I hated have to put up with the useless cool kids in the letterman
> jackets in high school, I don't intend to start to do it now.

So it was pointed out to me that this was really way too harsh a way of
saying it.

I'm sorry if I hurt anybody's feelings. It wasn't my intent.

a better phrasing of this might be:

if we have a finite sum of money then it might best less beneficial to
spend it on cosmetic things than on issues that have been chronically
plaguing some of the development efforts.

Again, I'm sorry if it sounded mean. I didn't have any malicious intent
but sometimes I suck at saying things.


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