New logo guidelines and web design elements posted

Rahul Sundaram sundaram at
Sat May 27 07:54:49 UTC 2006

On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 20:10 -0300, Hugo Cisneiros wrote:
> On Friday 26 May 2006 17:06, Patrick W. Barnes wrote:
> > I have to be honest, I'm not impressed with the new header pieces.  They
> > don't fit in with the wiki's theme, they are completely irrelevant, and
> > they waste a lot of space.  On lower resolutions, a visitor might have to
> > scroll most of a page to get to any useful content.
> Me neither.
> > We need artwork that is consistent, lightweight, and can be worked into the
> > current themes.  If we really want context-sensitive artwork, we should try
> > to work out a way to include that artwork as part of the wiki header, where
> > it could fill some of the already-wasted space instead of wasting even
> > more. Another consideration is in our ability to produce matching pieces,
> > such as when a new project is formed.  Having to ask a particular person to
> > create a new piece using his proprietary software is only going to cause
> > problems in the future.
> One day before the new logo guidelines came, I created a new compatible logo 
> to put in our Wiki, to overwrite the current old one. This new "temporary" 
> logo uses the new Fedora logo instead of the generic one currently in Wiki.
> They complained that the Logo isn't following the guidelines, but didn't say 
> what guideline it wasn't following. Looking at the guidelines I found out 
> that I was not following the "Clear Space" rule. Ok, I gave up, IMO there was 
> no good way to create a new logo for Wiki and follow this guideline.
> Looking today at the proprietary image format about a new Wiki design, I 
> realized that the design itself isn't following the "clear space" guideline 
> too. Ironic.
> So I suggested (and I'm bringing this discussion here) to extend the Logo 
> Guidelines to create Sub-Projects Logos, like for Fedora Extras, Fedora 
> Documentation, Fedora (Brazil), Fedora (France), and so on. The current 
> guidelines does not allow us to do this in a pretty way because of the "clear 
> space" rule. What do you think?

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