[Fedora-marketing-list] Re: who has some CSS/wiki foo?

[Max Spevack]

Those are great comments, thanks for them.

Come on folks, doesn't anyone feel like playing around with this a little 
bit?  Try something out -- take a copy of the "raw text" of FedoraMain and 
start playing with it somewhere else in the wiki.  Use it as an excuse to 
learn moinmoin.  Make your vision happen!

Hoping someone feels inspired,
Max

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, chasd at silveroaks.com wrote:

>> So I did some minor changes last night to FedoraMain, the front page of
>> the wiki.
>
> I think that is an improvement, however I think the FC6 links should be below 
> the FC5 links.
> IMHO, stable releases should be encouraged over test releases.
> At least there are test release links on the main page now, I like that.
>
>> I think that a comparatively small amount of effort could make a *huge*
>> difference in the professional look and feel, and ease of use, of our
>> wiki.
>
> I think before the layout is determined, you need to decide what is the order 
> of importance.
> Obviously "How do I get it" is very important, but what are the next three or 
> four most needed pieces of info ?
>
> My top five would be
> Download
> Help
> News
> Participate
> Goals
> ( not sure about the order )
>
>> This is only going to look right in plain text email readers:
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> Stuff that comes at the top of the wiki
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> Two column layout
>> 
>> FC6 screenshot			Fedora logo
>
> I personally don't like having two logos close to each other.
> I would remove one. The space the log takes here could be better used with 
> some descriptive copy, or a review quote.
>
>>
>>  				Download FC6
>>  				torrents, x86, etc.
>
> A link to new features here might be a good idea.
> You offer links to FC5 and to FC6, some copy or a link to help the viewer 
> decide which to choose might be a good idea.
>
>>
>>  				Download FC%
>>  				torrents, x86, etc.
>> 
>> basically the way it is right now, some sort of box around it to set it
>> apart from the rest of the FedoraMain
>
> Why set it apart ?
>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> Two column layout
>> 
>> Left column, in white		Right column, some sort of color bg
>> Fedora Projects				General Information
>> now we list the "biggest"		stuff like FAQ, Communicate,
>> Projects, with just a few		Press queries, etc, one or two
>> words about each			"latest news" blurbs, weekly
>>  					reports, etc.
>
> Not sure why two different colored backgrounds would be required here.
> I think the organization into two columns is enough of a separation.
> Maybe one column is wider than the other to indicate emphasis rather than a 
> different background color.
>
> One more comment about color, one of the reasons I think FedoraMain is, um, 
> not as inviting as the other links Mr. Spevack provided is the colors are 
> either all the same or neutral. Everything is either blue, white, or 
> black/grey. Blue is a rather passive color. I think one or maybe two brighter 
> colors in small doses to add interest might help. Also there is almost no 
> imagery or graphics on FedoraMain ( besides the screen shot ) compared to 
> icons or even images at the other links. The Fedora style ( and Ubuntu ) uses 
> very flat color. Adding something with dimension provides contrast to the 
> flat color. Note how if you remove the icons from the openSUSE page the 
> design becomes much more plain. If the Mozilla icons were flat that page 
> would start to be a yawner.
>
> I agree with another post that the use of badges or "banners" to attract the 
> eye to highly requested areas might be a good idea, particularly if there are 
> highlights and shadows to provide dimension.
>
> I have zero experience with Wikis, MoinMoin in particular.
>
>
> Charles Dostale
>
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