[Fedora-marketing-list] Re: who has some CSS/wiki foo?

Sun Sep 24 01:08:43 UTC 2006

On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 16:25 -0400, Max Spevack wrote:
> Those are great comments, thanks for them.
> 
> Come on folks, doesn't anyone feel like playing around with this a little 
> bit?  Try something out -- take a copy of the "raw text" of FedoraMain and 
> start playing with it somewhere else in the wiki.  Use it as an excuse to 
> learn moinmoin.  Make your vision happen!
> 
I'm playing around:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SamFolkWilliams/draftMainSandbox

I think instead of just having the download links front and center, it's
nice to have the three major sections "info and downloads" "community"
and "help/support". I put Paul's tip of the day thing in and took out a
bunch of the stuff that makes the page long. Probably there is a better
way to have the news feeds, maybe make the picture more exciting, etc.

This is just a first go at it, but I agree strongly with Max -- we
should do something....

We might also want to think about Dimitri's new fedora local homepage,
which will be the starter page firefox displays in FC 6:

Sam
> Hoping someone feels inspired,
> Max
> 
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, chasd at silveroaks.com wrote:
> 
> >> So I did some minor changes last night to FedoraMain, the front page of
> >> the wiki.
> >
> > I think that is an improvement, however I think the FC6 links should be below 
> > the FC5 links.
> > IMHO, stable releases should be encouraged over test releases.
> > At least there are test release links on the main page now, I like that.
> >
> >> I think that a comparatively small amount of effort could make a *huge*
> >> difference in the professional look and feel, and ease of use, of our
> >> wiki.
> >
> > I think before the layout is determined, you need to decide what is the order 
> > of importance.
> > Obviously "How do I get it" is very important, but what are the next three or 
> > four most needed pieces of info ?
> >
> > My top five would be
> > Download
> > Help
> > News
> > Participate
> > Goals
> > ( not sure about the order )
> >
> >> This is only going to look right in plain text email readers:
> >> 
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Stuff that comes at the top of the wiki
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Two column layout
> >> 
> >> FC6 screenshot			Fedora logo
> >
> > I personally don't like having two logos close to each other.
> > I would remove one. The space the log takes here could be better used with 
> > some descriptive copy, or a review quote.
> >
> >>
> >>  				Download FC6
> >>  				torrents, x86, etc.
> >
> > A link to new features here might be a good idea.
> > You offer links to FC5 and to FC6, some copy or a link to help the viewer 
> > decide which to choose might be a good idea.
> >
> >>
> >>  				Download FC%
> >>  				torrents, x86, etc.
> >> 
> >> basically the way it is right now, some sort of box around it to set it
> >> apart from the rest of the FedoraMain
> >
> > Why set it apart ?
> >
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Two column layout
> >> 
> >> Left column, in white		Right column, some sort of color bg
> >> Fedora Projects				General Information
> >> now we list the "biggest"		stuff like FAQ, Communicate,
> >> Projects, with just a few		Press queries, etc, one or two
> >> words about each			"latest news" blurbs, weekly
> >>  					reports, etc.
> >
> > Not sure why two different colored backgrounds would be required here.
> > I think the organization into two columns is enough of a separation.
> > Maybe one column is wider than the other to indicate emphasis rather than a 
> > different background color.
> >
> > One more comment about color, one of the reasons I think FedoraMain is, um, 
> > not as inviting as the other links Mr. Spevack provided is the colors are 
> > either all the same or neutral. Everything is either blue, white, or 
> > black/grey. Blue is a rather passive color. I think one or maybe two brighter 
> > colors in small doses to add interest might help. Also there is almost no 
> > imagery or graphics on FedoraMain ( besides the screen shot ) compared to 
> > icons or even images at the other links. The Fedora style ( and Ubuntu ) uses 
> > very flat color. Adding something with dimension provides contrast to the 
> > flat color. Note how if you remove the icons from the openSUSE page the 
> > design becomes much more plain. If the Mozilla icons were flat that page 
> > would start to be a yawner.
> >
> > I agree with another post that the use of badges or "banners" to attract the 
> > eye to highly requested areas might be a good idea, particularly if there are 
> > highlights and shadows to provide dimension.
> >
> > I have zero experience with Wikis, MoinMoin in particular.
> >
> >
> > Charles Dostale
> >
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