[Ambassadors] Sitting with Ubuntu for a Workshop

Danishka Navin danishka at gmail.com
Sat Apr 19 15:58:19 UTC 2008

Thanks buddy...

On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram at fedoraproject.org>

> Danishka Navin wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > Sri Lanka Linux community will be orgnizing workshop for Maldivian
> > students association as per their request.
> > I'm planning to show up the Fedora 9 New features and l10n as well.
> > As most of our members prefer Ubuntu, I don't want to criticizes other
> > bistros, but want to show the true advantages over F9.
> >
> > Date is yet to be fixd, so planning to introduce Fedora Live USB Self
> > Service PC. ;-)
> >
> > Appreciate your points, suggestions and previous experience.
> >
> A generic intro:
> ----------------
> You can reuse and modify as necessary the intro presentation from
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommunityArchitecture/Presentations
> Fedora is fully committed to Free and open source software and staying
> close to upstream as much as possible.
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WhyUpstream
> Fedora drives a lot of the upstream work shared by other distributions.
> Refer http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RedHatContributions
> Security is a key focus area
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Security/Features
> Virtualization is another. Refer to virt-manager, libvirt etc.
> A open build system, koji, a unified repository along with livecd-creator,
> pungi and revisors supports custom variants of Fedora that are called Fedora
> spins very easily. Rebranding is supported via the generic-logos package. We
> have a easy way to support persistence and creating a bootable USB key is
> trivial. There are a large number of such spins - desktop (gnome), KDE, Xfce
> live images, Electronics Lab, games and several upcoming ones.
> https://fedorahosted.org/transifex is a web service (completely Free
> software) that understands different source code management systems and
> presents a unified easy to use web interface and works towards committing
> changes upstream and then inheriting those changes in Fedora.
> Fedora is well known for presenting a great look and feel including a
> fresh new default theme every release.
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork
> Fedora in a continuation of Red Hat Linux released first in November 3
> 1994. It is also the upstream for more than a hundred derivatives including
> significant ones such as OLPC and Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DerivedDistributions
> A common misconception
> ----------------------
> This is a common misconception that you might want to clarify upfront:
> RPM format ~= DEB format
> RPM tool ~= dpkg
> Yum, apt-rpm, smart ~= apt
> RPM is not comparable to apt-get. It is comparable to dpkg. In fact, both
> RPM and Apt-RPM upstreams are maintained by the same Fedora/Red Hat
> developer. We have yum, apt-rpm(synaptic) and smart available in the Fedora
> repository and they all support the same repomd metadata format.
> RPM supports many additional things including multi-lib (the ability to
> install both 32-bit and 64-bit libs in parallel), file based dependencies
> (though we don't use it much), triggers (which recently has been in the dpkg
> fork in Ubuntu but not in Debian) and others.
> We choose yum over apt-rpm as the default because it was a good
> replacement for up2date using the same language (python), ease of
> development and also because apt-rpm upstream was dead as the time we had to
> chose and didn't support features like multi-lib that was crucial to us. For
> performance improvements, demonstrate the speed in Fedora 9.
> ----
> Fedora 9 specific
> -----------------
> http://jonrob.wordpress.com/2008/04/19/5-reasons-why-youll-love-fedora-9/is a pretty good intro. I would also definitely highlight FreeIPA better.
> Closing
> -------
> Fedora and Ubuntu share a lot of the same software due to Fedora's free
> software and upstream friendly policy. In particular, Ubuntu has inherited
> system-config-printer, virt-manager, PulseAudio etc from us and we have
> recently inherited Upstart from Ubuntu. We have constantly learn from each
> other and while many of the contributors understand this very well, users
> still need to.
> ----
> Hope that helps.

yeah, why NOT :D
what quick & good reply
Waiting for more stuff from other Fedora geeks :)

> Rahul
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Danishka Navin
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