What are we doing wrong? WAS Re: ubuntu marketing
Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail
mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com
Sat Feb 23 17:51:57 UTC 2008
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Jonathan Roberts
<jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > We fix the problem by
> > standing here and reminding people that Europe is not immune to this
> > threat. It's real damn easy to pretend the problem is just a US
> > issue...its not. Its a looming legal issue everywhere. We don't win
> > long term by ignoring it. We'll have this same discussion every
> > single release cycle.. and I'm okay with that. Patents are the biggest
> > problem facing the open source ecosystem, and I'd rather have Fedora
> > stand here and be a beacon for rational, passionate, discussion on the
> > issue, than to just side step the issue for the sake of collecting a
> > few more users in our userbase.
> >
> >
> > I do not need to beat another linux distribution in terms of users for
> > Fedora to achieve is core goals of fostering open innovation.
> > I need 'enough' users... i need 'enough' upstream developers.. i need
> > 'enough' maintainers.. I need 'enough' triagers... I need 'enough'
> > artists... I need 'enough writers...I need 'enough' translators....
> > and give them 'enough' open infrastructure by which to communicate as
> > partners in the process of open innovation.
> >
> > What I don't need is proprietary software.
> >
> > I don't need to be greedy for Fedora to reach its prime objectives. I
> > am perfectly okay with other distribution existing and being popular.
> > The future of ALL linux distributions runs through what is happening
> > as part of Fedora...and I'm perfectly happy with that.
>
> OK, how about we try and turn this thread into some positive energy!?
>
> What's been said, that Fedora is here to take a stand and to help try
> and change the legal issues that cause problems for those of us who
> want to be creative and share with each other, is very true. I believe
> that the majority of Fedora's contributing community are here and
> taking part because they support this view. Jef's also said that this
> conversation comes up during every release cycle - and even I've been
> around long enough to see that this is true - so we must be doing
> something wrong, somewhere, in communicating this part of our mission
> to the outside world and newer members of our community.
>
> The questions I now have are:
>
> * Where are we going wrong currently?
> * How can we make changes to improve this?
>
> The best selling point, imho, for free software is the freedom's that
> it affords us. Likewise, Fedora's strongest selling point is the stand
> it takes to help defend and make these freedoms available to anybody
> who wants them. So how can we promote this better? I might reply to my
> own thread in a while with my thoughts on this!
>
updates on -stable branch goes too fast! :P (well, at least thats the
complain which I hear quite frequent). This caused regression
problems. Things work at first, but breaks after an update. Being in
fedora stable to them feels like being in -devel branch of other
distros.
Maybe revise the update policy?.
> Best wishes,
>
> Jon
>
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