Now, that I got people talking...

Nicu Buculei nicu_fedora at
Wed Jun 18 05:46:13 UTC 2008

Lucas Saboya wrote:
> why cant we use another free video format that doesn't have this kind of 
> trouble, shouldn't save us a lot of time and sake ? :D

We use, the format is Ogg Theora and it is free.
The problem is *the tools*. The tools for editing Theora videos are... 
let's say immature.
There are out there a larger number of tools which can also edit Theora 
videos, but they are intended primarily for other formats (and sometime 
work internally using those formats), which are not free.

> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Jeff Spaleta <jspaleta at 
> <mailto:jspaleta at>> wrote:
>     On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Valent Turkovic
>     <valent.turkovic at <mailto:valent.turkovic at>> wrote:
>      > There are two projects; saya-videoeditor [3], myvideoeditor [4]
>     saya currently relies on the OpenVIP media framework..which uses ffmpeg.
>     the reliance on ffmpeg makes its nearly impossible to include in
>     Fedora.  I can not stress this enough, applications which have compile
>     time dependencies on ffmpeg will be difficult to place in Fedora.
>     Unless someone figures out how to patch out the encumbered
>     technologies in ffmpeg, we can't ship ffmpeg. And even if we did find
>     a way to patch out everything we can't distribute, it may not be worth
>     doing because we would be in effect shipping a significantly crippled
>     ffmpeg library since ffmpeg does not understand the concept of
>     pluggable runtime codec support.
>     Its a real shame, if we could ship a limited version of ffmpeg which
>     support unencumbered codec technologies we would have the ability to
>     ship versions of several multimedia frameworks and applications.  But
>     the way ffmpeg is structured as a project and a codebase, makes its
>     difficult to safely work with.

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