Now, that I got people talking...

Lucas Saboya lucas at
Wed Jun 18 12:05:59 UTC 2008

I know, but what about make our own OGG editing tool ?
something like FedoraMovie, or something like that.. :D

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:46 AM, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora at>

> Lucas Saboya wrote:
>> why cant we use another free video format that doesn't have this kind of
>> trouble, shouldn't save us a lot of time and sake ? :D
> We use, the format is Ogg Theora and it is free.
> The problem is *the tools*. The tools for editing Theora videos are...
> let's say immature.
> There are out there a larger number of tools which can also edit Theora
> videos, but they are intended primarily for other formats (and sometime work
> internally using those formats), which are not free.
>  On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Jeff Spaleta <jspaleta at<mailto:
>> jspaleta at>> wrote:
>>    On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Valent Turkovic
>>    <valent.turkovic at <mailto:valent.turkovic at>> wrote:
>>     > There are two projects; saya-videoeditor [3], myvideoeditor [4]
>>    saya currently relies on the OpenVIP media framework..which uses
>> ffmpeg.
>>    the reliance on ffmpeg makes its nearly impossible to include in
>>    Fedora.  I can not stress this enough, applications which have compile
>>    time dependencies on ffmpeg will be difficult to place in Fedora.
>>    Unless someone figures out how to patch out the encumbered
>>    technologies in ffmpeg, we can't ship ffmpeg. And even if we did find
>>    a way to patch out everything we can't distribute, it may not be worth
>>    doing because we would be in effect shipping a significantly crippled
>>    ffmpeg library since ffmpeg does not understand the concept of
>>    pluggable runtime codec support.
>>    Its a real shame, if we could ship a limited version of ffmpeg which
>>    support unencumbered codec technologies we would have the ability to
>>    ship versions of several multimedia frameworks and applications.  But
>>    the way ffmpeg is structured as a project and a codebase, makes its
>>    difficult to safely work with.
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