Video: 5 Fun Things in Fedora 12

John Mackay mackay3 at
Mon Nov 30 20:47:59 UTC 2009

I´ve also been looking for ogg support youtube-like alternative sites.

and lol, wtf with the passive agressiveness?

2009/11/30 Máirín Duffy <mairin at>

> On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 15:12 -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> > 2009/11/30 Máirín Duffy <mairin at>:
> > > Hi,
> > > I just posted a 15 minute 'fun things in Fedora' video. It's on YouTube
> > > - I tried and the upload kept stalling, so I split the video
> in
> > > to and got it up on YouTube just so I could make it available more
> > > quickly.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hope you enjoy,
> >
> > Unfortunately, one of the five fun things is not watching the five fun
> > things videos in a stock fedora install.
> To be fair, the video is aimed at people who are not yet using Fedora.
> > The site requires flash.
> >
> > …  If anyone doing fedora marketing wants to put up videos that don't
> > require proprietary software to view, please feel free to drop me an
> > email. I'd be glad to help, or if I'm too busy I can connect you
> > with someone else willing and able to help.
> >
> > Supporting open video technology isn't especially hard, and it doesn't
> > require losing compatibility with people still on proprietary platforms.
> > ... though it is a little more involved than just dropping the videos
> > on youtube.
> I hope you didn't mean to hurt my feelings with your message because it
> could certainly be interpreted that way.
> As noted, the videos were created in Fedora 12 using PiTiVi. I attempted
> to encode them 3 times, for a total of 3 hours rendering time (I let the
> last one render overnight last night since I had wasted hours already)
> using an Ogg container, Theora video codecs, and Vorbis & Celt sound
> codecs. Every single time, the video rendered completely out-of-sync.
> Even though gstreamer was used to render it, it refused to play in
> gstreamer players, only playing in mplayer.
> I finally had to render it using an avi container / mpeg2 / mp3, and
> that only took 15 minutes to render.
> I attempted to upload it to at first, as I already noted, and
> after 2 failed attempts (a total of 1 hour and 45 minutes of my time) I
> gave up and had it uploaded to YouTube in 30 minutes. Whenever I have to
> upload something to YouTube, I always make an ogv version available (you
> can see in my past blog posts where I've done this) but in this case it
> simply was not possible as it would not encode successfully.
> You can ask anyone who knows me - I am insanely religious about software
> freedom and codec freedom. After spending hours filming, editing,
> rendering, and uploading these video (I would guesstimate about 12 hours
> total, during my holiday vacation time) I became impatient and just
> wanted to share the video instead of putting myself through continued
> pain trying to do it the right way.
> Can you help me get this working with ogg & Is there a bug in
> PiTiVi or F12's theora / ogg / celt / vorbis encoders that resulted in
> my having such a poor experience? What do you suggest? I used all of the
> default settings in PiTiVi as I wasn't sure what encoder settings to
> tweak (and at ~1 hour rendering time per attempt making wild guesses
> would not be a prudent usage of my time.)
> ~m
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