What happened in June of 2009 within the Fedora Project?

[Tareq Al Jurf]

2009/10/14 Christoph Wickert <christoph.wickert at googlemail.com>

> Am Mittwoch, den 14.10.2009, 17:26 +0200 schrieb Gregory Zysk:
>
>
> > >> If we interact with people outside the community, then yes we do
> > need to have some sort of metrics that reflect what we do.
>
> I don't think that the number of ambassadors reflects what we do. There
> are other ways to measure this: The number of events we do, the number
> of talks our ambassadors do or the number of Fedora installs [1] and so
> on.
>
> Take a look at Ubuntu, they seem measure their success by the number of
> Ubuntu CDs the gave away on an event. I recall talking to a guy from
> their community and he said: "It was a very successful event for Ubuntu,
> we gave away nearly 3000 CDs." I wasn't really surprised about the high
> number because they had big boxes of CDs standing in front of their
> booth. People walked by and grabbed 10 or 20 at once while the Ubuntu
> people were sitting behind their desk and reading books.
> To me this is no success. For me it is more important to have a nice
> conversation with somebody. We talk for 5 or 10 minutes and then I give
> him a Live-CD before he leaves. I'm sure this person is much more
> interested in Fedora and has learned more about the project than
> somebody who papers his restroom with Ubuntu-CDs because they bling so
> nice. ;)
>
> We must not take numbers as the key to everything. Numbers do not
> reflect how well a community is working or how people actually feel as
> being part of this community. Is there a way to measure pride or
> gratitude?
>
> > Those should, of course, be honest, but also precise. Not just a round
> > about figure. The reason being legitimacy.
>
> I think they are precise. The number of Ambassadors has decreased, but
> their quality has increased. How would you measure quality by numbers?
>
>
Exactly
I've noticed that the ambassadors available now have full profiles and are
very active
Before that i used to find ambassadors that have only a couple of words on
their profiles.
But know whenever Joerg Simon sends a welcome message, i like to see their
profiles
a lot better and productive than before.


> > This is one of the largest gauge for an organization which produces
> > knowledge as an output. In simple words, these figures can be used for
> > external purposes. And why not? The resources are already there (in
> > this case)
>
> What kind of external purposes do you think of?
>
> Regards,
> Christoph
>
> [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Statistics
>
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Tareq Al Jurf
Fedora Ambassador
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
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