Advertising "open core" software

[Nelson Marques]

On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 18:26 -0400, Jan Wildeboer wrote:
> This discussion gets out of hand and doesn't belong here. The original 
> question was if fedora marketing material should promote open core software 
> or not.

Jan,

 I shouldn't even be posting on this thread, but do we take any benefits
by doing such? And how would we cross those beneficts vs our current
work load? Should we drop FOSS assignments for it?

 That's pretty much the only thing I could say. Not turning up or down,
neither want to crash no one's parade.

 nelson

> 
> We are not discussing feature wars of whatever project/product.
> 
> Jan
> 
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> To: Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org>
> Cc: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base 
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> Subject: Re: Advertising "open core" software
> 
> On 04/15/2010 03:23 AM, Robert Scheck wrote
> > Having this said, I'm pretty sure, that only less Fedora users care about
> > whether Zarafa in Fedora has support for Outlook or not, because most of
> > our Fedora users don't use Windows as their main operating system.
> 
> We really don't know much about our users.  They might be using Windows
> or they might be working on a environment where a number of *other
> users* are using Windows.
> 
> > Maybe
> > you should see the benefit of what Zarafa open sourced so far: There is a
> > full-featured Open Source MAPI implementation and library by Zarafa, while
> > OpenChange provides in comparision only a few less percent of the overall
> > functionalities and features - they're providing basics, but did you ever
> > try something more extended? It doesn't work or it crashes. OpenChange is
> > not usable in Enterprise so far, while Zarafa (even without the 
> > proprietary
> > features) is.
> >
> 
> The whole point of MAPI is to talk to folks using Windows.  So you can't
> really argue that Windows is irrelevant to our discussions.  Even in a
> groupware deployment within Red Hat,  blackberry integration was
> considered a blocker for example.    No doubt that open source features
> are useful by itself but it should be taken into consideration that a
> large scale deployment very likely would have to be buying the
> proprietary version and IMO that should factor into our considerations
> of what we promote within Fedora  regardless of whether you consider
> your work in Fedora as a "test bed".   I understand you are associated
> with Zarafa and worked on integrating it into Fedora but my position on
> this concern around the model we are implicitly promoting rather than
> anything against the software itself.    The question boils down to one
> simple thing:  Should we promote "open core" software prominently within
> Fedora?  You can take Zarafa completely out of the equation and still
> answer that meaningfully.
> 
> > By the way, wasn't it you some time ago promoting the Omega Fedora Remix
> > containing closed source software via the Fedora mailing lists?
> >
> 
> Common confusion.  There is no "closed source" software in Omega.
> What I include by default is the some software from the RPM Fusion -
> free repo which are entirely free and open source software.  Being
> patent encumbered in some regions doesn't make it non-free.    Anyway
> this is off-topic to the current discussion.  If you have questions on
> Omega, feel free to mail me offlist about it and I can discuss any
> concerns in length.
> 
> Rahul
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