Mobility change

Paul W. Frields stickster at
Mon Oct 18 13:21:03 UTC 2010

On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 09:34:49PM -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Paul W. Frields <stickster at> wrote:
> > >From the advisory-board list -- the Mobility talking point needs some
> > changes.  Can someone take this small task on?
> Hey hey hey, look who's volunteering ;) Copying Peter in case he's not
> on the marketing list or following it religiously....

I fixed the talking point and the F14 release notes to match it.

> So - I guess I have a few questions here, as well as comments.
> Questions first!
> * MeeGo is also listed on Feature List [1]. Does that need to be
> removed? Renamed?

As far as I recall, the feature concerned getting the updated software
into Fedora and I think that has been mostly completed.  I think what
Peter was telling us is that there are still some integration bugs
that need to be worked out for a usable spin to be produced, but
that's a different kettle of fish.

> * On the MeeGo feature page [2] there is something saying that you can
> do a yum install meego-netbook from rawhide. Is this still the case?
> Could we possibly call this something along the lines of a "mobility
> spin tech preview"? (I'm not sure what all the technical details are
> here, which is probably safer for us all anyway :D - just trying to
> figure out how to distinguish the naming of what we *are* going to
> have, at least pieces of anyhow.)

Good question, I defer to Peter for the answer to that one.

> * I guess I need a bit of handholding as far as "the software" we're
> talking about. Is that the software referenced in the MeeGo page like
> Clutter, GUPnP, and libsocialweb?

Yes, stuff like that -- software from the MeeGo project that's now
included in Fedora.

> Comments second:
> * I'm really sad to see this one go.  I don't know if anyone else
> noticed but the amount of highlighting this feature / spin got was
> probably more abundant than anything else. MeeGo was specifically
> mentioned in a number of the article titles in news that came out
> around Beta time, as you can see in the press archives. [3]  I really
> appreciate all the work that Peter and everyone else have done on
> this, and I hope we can work out the issues for next time around!
> * * *
> [1]
> [2]
> [3]

Just to be clear, it's only the spin that's not going to get produced.
The vast majority of software from the MeeGo core is in Fedora 14.
It's never been proper to say "MeeGo is in Fedora 14" because there is
a tiny fraction of it we don't include because it interferes with the
rest of Fedora's software stack (like ConnMan which would replace
NetworkManager).  Rather, what we do say is that we include most of
the software from the MeeGo project in Fedora 14 -- that hasn't

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