Helping to improve advertising of test days and other things

[Jiri Eischmann]

Arnav Kalra píše v Po 20. 08. 2012 v 22:28 +0530:
> Maybe we should release virtualbox/vmware images so that people can
> easily test fedora. Is fedora on Google plus? If yes then we can
> schedule events on Google plus and send invites.

The problem is that many test days require testing on bare metal,
they're usually the most important ones (power management, graphics
drivers,...). But it might be useful for others.
Fedora is on G+, but I have no idea who is in charge of the account.

Jiri

> On Aug 20, 2012 8:21 PM, "Jiri Eischmann" <eischmann at redhat.com>
> wrote:
>         Robyn Bergeron píše v Pá 17. 08. 2012 v 12:13 -0700:
>         > Hey,
>         >
>         > So, I was just hanging out in the weekly kernel meeting on
>         IRC, and
>         > asked how their virtual fad for kernel regression testing
>         went, and
>         > heard that they had incredibly low turnout, and it was also
>         noted that
>         > test days in general kind of have low or less than we'd like
>         to have
>         > turnout.  Which seems like something we can help with, in a
>         few ways:
>         >
>         > #1: Work with the QA team to help them figure out how to get
>         information
>         > to us so that we can get it out to various channels -
>         twitter, facebook,
>         > etc. - and what information we'd need and when.
>         >
>         > A lot of times, it seems like testing might sound
>         daunting/"not for me"
>         > when in reality, it might be easy or take 5 minutes or etc.
>         So maybe
>         > things we could ask for would be...
>         >
>         > * How long does this take?
>         > * Is this "easy", "hard," ... what skills do you need?
>         > * Is this a "you just need a USB key and a way to download"
>         or is this
>         > potentially going to destroy your system?
>         >
>         > For the kernel regression virtual fad - which wasn't really
>         a test day -
>         > as an example, it's (a) got the word "kernel" in it, which I
>         think
>         > automatically makes a lot of people say "uhoh, not for me,"
>         even though
>         > there may have been ways for them to participate.
>         >
>         > Anyway: it seems like something we could add value to - just
>         with
>         > something like, "Send us your info a week in advance, we'll
>         work up some
>         > tweets or content and help drive folks back to you."
>         >
>         > #2: See if there are additional things we could produce that
>         can help
>         > people get acquainted with the idea or process of testing.
>         >
>         > Maybe a video how-to? Not really sure here what would be
>         valuable -
>         > would be something to reach out to the QA folks about.
>         >
>         > #3: Josh Boyer added in the kernel meeting that it would be
>         cool to just
>         > have a "Boot the rawhide kernel today. Does it work? Tell us
>         why or why
>         > not" type of thing - I don' tknow if that would be targeted
>         as a once a
>         > week type thing, or what. Maybe this would be an interesting
>         thing to
>         > tackle - how can we help them make this sound less
>         daunting/more
>         > friendly, get the word out, and have fun with it? Maybe a
>         quick
>         > screencast of how to walk through this type of thing from
>         start to finish?
>         >
>         > Thoughts, comments? Anyone willing to reach out to either QA
>         or the
>         > kernel folks to pick their brains on this one?
>         
>         I've been thinking about how to improve test days promotion
>         for some
>         time. A few thoughts:
>         
>         If we want to have more people testing Fedora we need to have
>         appropriate infrastructure first. Frankly, wiki is not
>         scalable for
>         receiving test results. It's OK if you have 10-15 participants
>         throughout the day, but it's PIA if you have more. There were
>         about 40
>         people participating in the power management test day and they
>         had
>         serious problems to submit results (conflicts all the time).
>         Not
>         mentioned that for some people, editing wiki is not very
>         friendly. I
>         spoke about this with the QA guys so much that they started
>         working on
>         some submitting system, but it's just at the beginning and
>         doesn't have
>         a high priority for them.
>         
>         Real (not online) events might be worth exploring. We did it
>         for the F17
>         power management test day during our office's open house. It
>         was by far
>         the most attended test day and people were enjoying testing
>         Fedora
>         together and with people that have the best insight in to the
>         area (our
>         power management engineers in this case).
>         
>         We have to talk about them more. People that represent Fedora
>         should
>         blog about it, talk about it at conferences, post
>         announcements at
>         national community sites etc. If I and Jaroslav Reznik attend
>         a general
>         Linux conference in our region we propose a talk "How To
>         Contribute to
>         Fedora Project" and it's mostly about test days because
>         testing is an
>         entry level contribution everyone can do. We go through test
>         cases with
>         people and show them it's actually quite easy to take part in
>         test days.
>         And we tell them that testing prior to the final release is
>         very
>         important.
>         
>         Red Hat opened an intern position in Brno office for someone
>         who would
>         coordinate test days promotion. Unfortunately, they haven't
>         yet found a
>         good fit, a student who is a Fedora enthusiast and interested
>         in
>         testing.
>         
>         Jiri
>         
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