Red Hat / Fedora relationship (was: The Inquirier on F17)

Ilyes Gouta ilyes.gouta at
Fri Jun 1 16:46:34 UTC 2012


This is just a little thought, wouldn't that sentence/title just The
Inquirier's sarcastic (and funny) touch to the published article? which is
kind of a regular procedure for them as far as IT news reporting is

At the end of the day, Fedora is the community-driven disribution strong
throughout the years, whereas RHEL is just the commercial product.

On Jun 1, 2012 5:22 PM, "Emanuel Rietveld" <codehotter at> wrote:

> On 06/01/2012 05:02 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 02:03:19AM +0000, "J├│hann B. Gu├░mundsson" wrote:
>>> On 05/31/2012 03:27 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>>>> Red Hat people who contribute to Fedora are community too.  There's
>>>> not a dividing line with the community on one side, and Red Hat on the
>>>> other.
> This is a very positive viewpoint and I'm glad that it gets expressed here
> and other places. Still, there are some ways, of course also due to
> history, in which the Fedora Project and Red Hat are not completely
> independent.
> Red Hat ultimately controls the Fedora trademark and the Fedora domain
> names, and pays for the Fedora infrastructure. What is shown on Fedora
> websites, and what is called Fedora, is ultimately under Red Hat control.
> This leaves Red Hat in an unique 'negotiation position' for influencing the
> direction of the project that other contributors do not have.
> Complete independence would mean that the trademark, domain names, and
> infrastructure are under the control of a legally and functionally separate
> entity, which is donation funded. I am not necessarily taking the position
> that such an arrangement would be beneficial to Fedora, just saying that
> such a level of independence would be subtly, yet significantly, different
> from the current situation.
> It would take explicit marketing effort from both Red Hat and Fedora
> Project for 'the public' to see Fedora as larger than Red Hat; to see Red
> Hat as a community member, a small contributor, working to the larger whole
> of Fedora. Especially considering that this is, in several important
> senses, not true.
> Let's take a step back. Most of the negative influence of the Red Hat
> relationship on the Fedora brand is the idea that Fedora is a lower quality
> product than RHEL, which Fedora is eventually 'distilled to'. That
> perspective is crucial for Red Hat's business positioning, and is probably
> true for Red Hat's customers, but it is not true in general.
> Fedora and Red Hat serve vastly different purposes, and for many purposes,
> RHEL is the inferior product. To whom is Fedora the better quality product
> and do those users read the inquirer?
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