Improve Fedora Project

[Álvaro Castillo]

On Sep 2, 2012 6:47 PM, "Kevin Fenzi" <kevin at scrye.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 01:08:19 +0100
> Álvaro Castillo <netsys at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>
> > Yes, maybe get in touch on board and ask, Why not or Why yes about
> > each suggestions....
>
> ok, let me throw in my input here on your suggestions.
> I think some of them might better to (re)posted to the board list or
> devel lists or other places. I tried to note those in each one.
>
> Note that this is just me, I'm not talking for anyone else. ;)
>
> 1. Control panel. This sounds interesting. Perhaps you could contact
> the owners of the various 'system-config' tools and see if they might
> work on something? See also, this feature which wasn't ready for f18:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemConfigCleanup
>
> 2. Tool to disable selinux
>
> I think the selinux troubleshoot tools are pretty good. Does the 'allow
> this' setting in there not work for these cases?

System-settings is gui tools. I know how to disable SELinux from terminal
too. YaST provide option to manipulate AppArmor with GUI or ncurses tools.
>
> 3. Multilingual support in Fedora
>
> This has been driven by two things: space on media is very limited. If
> we added languages it would grow to large to easily distribute. :( If
> we dropped cd's and looked at 1gb as a target perhaps these would have
> space? Secondly, Gnome has moved away from letting you choose a
> language on login, they have you login then choose language. That would
> be something to take up with gnome design folks.
>

Some linux distros such as openSUSE or ubuntu providing multilingual
support on CD.

> 4. K3B Setup
>
> I've not heard of these issues. If this is a bug, we should just fix
> it. ;) Logged in users should have permissions to burn cds.
>
> 5. Gparted on LiveCD
>
> I think it would be good to include all those tools on the live media.
> I'll mention it to the spins group...
>
> 6. Spins program utilities, Fedora
>
> We cannot include other repos in things we ship in Fedora for legal
> reasons, so I don't think thats going to happen. Anyone is welcome to
> revive revisor, but It will take some developer work to get it back up
> and running.
>

Ok, maybe legal reasons. But I talk about add button for any user of Fedora
can add your own repo as do Revisor tool. Not have on repos dir...et not.
Button to add repo only. Each users are responsible of use do of these tool.

> 7. Apper problems
>
> Have you reported this to the apper/kde developers?
>

I see on openSUSE passes too. Seem backend of zypper. I guees could backend
yum too.

> 8. GNOME Shell on Fedora
>
> including gnome-tweak-tool has been suggested to the desktop folks
> several times, but they do not wish it to be included. You can try
> asking again on the desktop list. They feel the 'out of box' setup is
> right, and they don't want to encourage people to 'tweak' it.
>

By error of some builders, all pay by they? (talking about of GNOME). If a
lot users wants include these tool, dont see for other way. Is not
community value that defend Fedora. Gnome tweak tool should stay on Desktop
edition. I guess.

> If you wish something besides gnome to be the default offering, feel
> free to bring it up on the board list. LXDE and Xfce are great, but
> they have a LOT less manpower than KDE or Gnome.
>
> 9. Kernel profiles
>
> This would be a query for the fedora kernel list. I know they would not
> want to carry non upstreamed patches, but perhaps there are things they
> would want to enable. If you had benchmarks that would be even
> better. ;) http://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kernel

I will see. Thanks!

>
> 10. Mobile platform
>
> I think a Fedora app would be cool. You would need to find people to
> write it. ;) I'm not sure if it could be an iOS app, as I think they
> refuse open source programs, but we could offer it somewhere ourselves.
> It could tie into all kinds of places in Fedora...
>

Only not exists iOS. Can see Android too.

> 11. Documentation, guides, volumes...et
>
> Docs can always be improved. I'm not sure I follow your full suggestion
> here, can you expand on it?
>

For example, need show I guess that Fedora can brings is innovates. I think
that bit people known that Fedora run as compatibility environment on BSD
systems such as FreeBSD, OpenBSD and PC-BSD. Or Fedora first provided -PAE
branch kernel, uses first PulseAudio, uses SELinux tool to have a good
protection, Fedora and Sugar environment selectes by OLPC project.. And
more. And more on lack spanish too..

> 12. Mobile Web Portal adapted.
>
> This would be a great suggestion for the websites team.
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites

Will ask here, thanks

>
> 13. See all downloads
>
> The design of the website was to not smother people with too many
> choices. So, the default is to just offer the default things. If we
> make the all page show first some people will become confused at all
> the options. You could bring this up to websites though.
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
>
> 14. Promote Koji (OBS)
>
> Sure, we could promote koji more. People could use it for scratch
> builds. However, we don't want them using it for non free stuff, and
> koji only makes rpms, not other formats.
>

I know that Koji is only build on RPM and is good choice. Libux standard
base promotes.RPM as default system package. However, all packagers of
Fedora not known Koji exist or some body wants uses it for build packages.

> 15. Announce SUGAR
>
> Agreed. More press around our sugar offering would be good.
>
> 16. Video of Fedora (Marketing)
>
> There was a fedora video group working on this:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Video perhaps they could start working on
> marketing type videos.
>
> kevin
>
> --
> marketing mailing list
> marketing at lists.fedoraproject.org
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

Out of this. will be interesting know thinks people officialy of Fedora
using an plataform as Ubuntu brain storm or Dell... where all can vote your
suggestions or ideas.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/attachments/20120903/887c3fea/attachment.html>