Fedora marketing is dead

Tue Mar 25 21:54:59 UTC 2014

Hello Giuseppe, 
I'm following this topic with interest thinking about your words.

I'm an ambassador and I completely agree with Giannis.

I worked a bit with Mitzie, Chris and Joe, talkin' with them and Ruth in the meetings and I can say that they are open minded.
So I mean is that the magazine is not the only working way into the team. Yes, it's important but there's a lot of other areas to work.
I understand what you're referring to and if you think there's something you wanna change or make it better just work on all the marketing things; everything can be changed from the inside.
Marketing people is doing a great and hard work, please respect this fact.

Hope to see you soon. 

___________________________
Gabriele Trombini
Fedora Ambassador
FedoraOnLine staff member

> Il giorno 25/mar/2014, alle ore 22:33, Giuseppe Pignataro <anubisteam01 at gmail.com> ha scritto:
> 
> Hi Giannis and all the others, 
> Thanks for yours contribution.
> I know that I have exaggerated on the title and on what I have writed. 
> I understand your position and I think the marketing team have made a good work. But I believe that we need a little more to make difference.
> 
> More marketing strategies are needed. I see marketing as a little "war". This is nothing about flame or by disapproving what good the marketing team have made.
> 
> I like the same core values that you like of Fedora.
> 
> But more people need to know this and spread the word. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Il 25/mar/2014 22:11 "Giannis Konstantinidis" <giankonstantinidis at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>> Hi Guiseppe,
>> with all due respect, I think you're exaggerating a lot. There's no need to start "a war" against another project. There's no need to prove why Fedora is better than the x or y distro. We all promote the core values of free and open source software and it's always so nice to collaborate with other projects. 
>> 
>> When people claim that they think the x or y distro is better than Fedora, try to focus on the strengths of Fedora instead of opening a flame war. Some things for example that make me a proud Fedora contributor are the 4 Foundations, with their deep meaning. So a few ideas to speak the good word about Fedora are:
>> - The fact that Fedora has one of the biggest and best communities out there
>> - Fedora respects the users' freedom, thus it ships with only free software by default
>> - Fedora is always innovative and trying to be ahead of other projects (in a good way)
>> - Fedora is upstream, so stuff that you see for the first time in Fedora are shared with other projects 
>> And trust me, out of experience, facts like these will get their attention and they will think again about it.
>> And in the end, everyone is free to choose whatever distro they wish, we're doing our best to spread the love about our project and get as many users/contributors as possible, but it's obvious that not everyone can be turned into a Fedora user/contributor.
>> 
>> As far as the magazine goes, there's no absolute reason to start posting installation guides and stuff like that, you can find stuff like these on the official documentation or even on Youtube. 
>> 
>> And by the way, I'm not a member of the marketing team, I'm and ambassador who's just reading the fedora marketing mailing list and this caught my attention. And from a third person observer perspective, I think that the marketing team is doing very good work in aiding to the promotion of the Fedora Project in general.
>> 
>> Again, we're taking part in no battle, there's no war out there and we're not losing anything. I personally think there's nothing wrong with Fedora or with its community so far and I like the way it is. :)
>> 
>> ~giannisk
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Zacharias Mitzelos <zacharias.mitzelos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Giuseppe joined fedora marketing last week, and he was interested in contributing to the magazine as well, so I made him an account there.
>>> 
>>> Zacharias
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 16:15:21 -0400
>>> From: croberts at croberts.org
>>> To: marketing at lists.fedoraproject.org; rsuehle at redhat.com
>>> Subject: Re: Fedora marketing is dead
>>> 
>>> 
>>> >> We'd love to have you as a contributor on Fedora Magazine. Feel free to join the marketing team and submit an article any time. 
>>> 
>>> We are getting quite a bit of traffic on the Fedora Magazine as I have passed the stats on to Matthew Miller. Especially since Fedora Magazine has made LWN with Matt's post about Fedora Next. Just on his post alone one day we had around 1200 visitors. Like Ruth said we would love to have more contributions to the Fedora Magazine. 
>>> 
>>> Here is a link on how to get started:
>>> 
>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Chris Roberts
>>> 
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