F21 media

[Bill Wood]

+1 for USB. That's actually a bit more useful these days. I'm curious; when
do we actually distribute install media, other than at events?


On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Stephen John Smoogen <smooge at gmail.com>
wrote:

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> On 4 September 2014 11:14, Jiri Eischmann <eischmann at redhat.com> wrote:
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>> Matthew Miller píše v Čt 04. 09. 2014 v 12:38 -0400:
>> > On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 04:33:48PM +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
>> > > That's a question. I wrote off physical media for the cloud product
>> > > right away, but I'm not sure about the server. We didn't reach a
>> > > consensus in FAmSCo. Some say they have installed server OSes from a
>> DVD
>> > > recently. That's why we asked Christoph to reach out to the server
>> >
>> > Random thought: What if we ship the server as a preconfigured VM on the
>> > workstation media?
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>> This sounds like an interesting idea to me. I have no idea how it would
>> behave and if it'd be usable running Fedora live, but it's worth trying.
>>
>> > In general, I think it would be nice to target our media giveaways to
>> the
>> > audience.
>> >
>> > If we're reaching out to developers (DevOps Days, Velocity), Workstation
>> > media makes sense. (With or without the server VM idea).
>> >
>> > For LISA, the developer desktop target isn't going to be so
>> interesting, and
>> > maybe server media would indeed be valuable. Although from last year,
>> most
>> > people taking the media were looking to try it on their laptops, or just
>> > collecting souvenirs -- people who were really interested in doing a
>> Fedora
>> > server deploy would mostly do a network install. (I guess the question
>> is
>> > whether that "souvenir" install media would actually sometimes convince
>> > people to try it where they wouldn't otherwise, because, hey, I've got
>> it
>> > already with no need hunt for the download link or to find a blank USB
>> stick
>> > or DVD.)
>> >
>> > If we feel like we have the budget for it, *and* people are willing to
>> make
>> > and test it, I don't think it hurts to have the multi-desktop DVD
>> available
>> > for distribution where we feel like the targetted message won't resonate
>> > anyway. I guess I'm mostly thinking of LUGs where the userbase is mostly
>> > interested in tinkering and trying multiple desktops is more of a draw.
>> > Actually, LISA might be an example of that too -- although "you can
>> > net-install from this and pick the desktop of your choice" would
>> probably
>> > satisfy.
>>
>> Ok, let me put the ideas in the cost perspective:
>> In EMEA if we order 5000 DVDs of one kind (same content, same graphics)
>> we pay ~ $1750.
>> If we order 1000 DVDs then the price is ~$800.
>>
>> So if we for example order 5 different DVDs, 1000 pieces each, the total
>> price will be: $4000.
>>
>>
> How many USB 8 gb sticks could we order with that money (the 1750?)? And
> how instead of giving it away we went to a 'earn the fob by sharing or
> helping someone else' system?
>
>  While DVD's are useful in some regions, I agree that the amount of money
> to burn throw away media might be better spent on things people can use
> multiple times in different ways.
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