[commops] working on f23 final release announcement

Paul W. Frields stickster at gmail.com
Wed Oct 14 21:39:26 UTC 2015


On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 01:13:36PM -0400, Remy DeCausemaker wrote:
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> Remy DeCausemaker 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Matthew Miller" <mattdm at fedoraproject.org>
> > To: "Fedora + Community + Operations = Fedora CommOps" <commops at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> > Cc: "Fedora Marketing team" <marketing at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 12:33:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: [commops] working on f23 final release announcement
> > 
> > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 05:22:47PM -0400, Remy DeCausemaker wrote:
> > > I'm new here, so bear with me, but Fedora has been really been making
> > > the "Friends" foundation a focus of the latest release, by improving
> > > our infrastructure and community. I realize this is not necessarily
> > > the distro itself, but there are a few activities that come to mind:
> > > 
> > >  - We deployed Bodhi2 (5 years in the making, huge performance increases,
> > >  fine-grained karma, and more...)
> > >  - D&I - Advisor search ongoing, and we've approved funding to hire two
> > >  Outreachy interns, helping with Hubs/dev portal & Community Operations
> > >  (CommOps)
> > >  - Fedora Hubs has already had a successful intern (mrichards) pave the way
> > >  for future interns and contributors.
> > >  - Fedora-bootstrap is our latest project wide CSS and website theme,
> > >  providing cohesion to our web properties.
> > >  - Fedmenu is a glimpse into the widgetized future that comes with
> > >  embeddable widgets via Fedora Hubs
> > >  - http://whatcanidoforfedora.org is like the Fedora Sorting Hat :)
> > >  - Fedora Magazine has hit milestone readership and publications (actual
> > >  numbers TBD)
> > >  - Others that I am not thinking of at the moment
> > > 
> > > I know this list above includes things that we have shipped along
> > > with things we have not yet shipped, but we've made mentionable
> > > progress on a number of fronts. I dunno if these 'Community'
> > > improvements are part of a release announcement or not, but they are
> > > def worth mentioning somewhere (particularly the strides that have
> > > been made in front-end, and in Rel-eng.)
> > 
> > Nice angle — I really like this. I had suggested (or, maybe I glommed
> > onto someone else's suggestion beacause I like the idea — I forget —
> > anyway, it was suggested) that Fedora development might benefit from a
> > "tick-tock" cycle, with one release focusing on process improvements,
> > and the next release focusing on OS features. People weren't, overall,
> > comfortable with putting Fedora into that model, I think mostly because
> > feature changes sometimes come faster than that, but also irregularly.
> > In any case, though I think this is clearly a "tick" release, with more
> > process and infrastructure improvements than big change within the
> > actual distribution.
> > 
> > On a similar note, at FUDCon Lawrence a few years ago, Tim Burke
> > suggested a "red/yellow/green" model for labeling how much scary change
> > a release contains. (As an alternative to having major/minor releases.)
> > I'm not a big fan of that, because I think we're mostly at the point
> > where even our scary releases are actually very solid and are "green"
> > in the absolute sense. But from that point of view, this is a "green"
> > release too. With our current marketing / press  model, which relies on
> > splashy changes to generate talking points, this ironically means the
> > releases we'd like _most_ to get into the hands of users get less
> > attention.
> > 
> > So anyway, that's a long way of saying that, yeah, I like the general
> > idea. I'm not sure a list of technical infrastructure improvements will
> > play any better with the press than a list of software version bumps,
> > though. Open to ideas. :)
> 
> I'm also open to ideas. I think that getting a solid list of
> improvements and performance enhancements from Fedora-infra about
> Bodhi2 would a great section to include in the notes. It's kinda
> meta, but still such an epic set of improvements from a 5 year
> undertaking.
> 
> I'll reach out to the Infra team and try to get some
> stats/metrics/facts/bullet points.
> 
> Same for some bullet points on the Fedora-boostrap redesign
> too. We're making a common look/feel, and it is helping to provide
> some cohesion in our web properties.
> 
> I'll also reach out to the Magazine folks, and see if I can get some
> quick bulletpoints/stats for readers/articles published.

I don't think we want to conflate the audience that wants to know how
much better the sausage tastes, with the people that care about
improvements to the sausage making equipment.

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