F18 Final Blocker Bug Review #1.2 Minutes

Tim Flink tflink at redhat.com
Mon Dec 3 20:16:30 UTC 2012


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#fedora-qa: f18final-blocker-review-1.2
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Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-12-03/f18final-blocker-review-1.2.2012-12-03-17.25.html
Minutes (text):  http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-12-03/f18final-blocker-review-1.2.2012-12-03-17.25.txt
Log:  http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-12-03/f18final-blocker-review-1.2.2012-12-03-17.25.log.html


Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call  (tflink, 17:25:12)

* Introduction  (tflink, 17:33:07)
  * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
    nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
    the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
    bugs.  (tflink, 17:33:17)
  * We'll be following the process outlined at:  (tflink, 17:33:23)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
    (tflink, 17:33:23)
  * The bugs up for review today are available at:  (tflink, 17:33:28)
  * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current   (tflink,
    17:33:28)
  * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at:  (tflink,
    17:33:34)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 17:33:34)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 17:33:35)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 17:33:35)
  * The current blocker/nth list consists of:  (tflink, 17:33:54)
  * 44 Proposed Blockers  (tflink, 17:33:57)
  * 10 Accepted Blockers  (tflink, 17:33:57)
  * 21 Proposed NTH  (tflink, 17:33:58)
  * 3 Accepted NTH  (tflink, 17:33:58)

* (882147) SystemError: (32, 'umount: /run/install/isodir: target is
  busy. (In some cases useful info about processes that use the device
  is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))')  (tflink, 17:36:10)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882147   (tflink,
    17:36:13)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 17:36:15)
  * AGREED: 882147 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - While this is an
    obviously invalid operation that probably should be rejected, it
    isn't catastropic and is a bit too much of a corner case to block
    release over  (tflink, 17:42:18)

* (545148) livecd boot from iscsi storage  (tflink, 17:42:27)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=545148   (tflink,
    17:42:27)
  * Proposed Blocker, dracut, NEW  (tflink, 17:42:27)
  * AGREED: 545148 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't hit any of the F18
    release criteria and thus is rejected as a blocker for F18 final.
    (tflink, 17:51:37)

* (874553) rd.debug boot option doesn't log to /run/initramfs/init.log
  (tflink, 17:51:46)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=874553   (tflink,
    17:51:46)
  * Proposed Blocker, dracut, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 17:51:46)
  * AGREED: 874553 - RejectedBlocker - While this is a hinderance to
    debugging installed systems and images, it doesn't clearly hit any
    of the F18 release criteria and is thus rejected as a blocker for
    F18 final.  (tflink, 17:56:58)

* (873817) inkscape packaging bugs prevent install  (tflink, 17:57:08)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873817   (tflink,
    17:57:08)
  * Proposed Blocker, inkscape, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 17:57:08)
  * AGREED: - In spirit, we are OK with modifying the alpha release
    criterion "There must be no file conflicts or unresolved package
    dependencies during a media-based (DVD) install" to include more
    generic packaging errors. The details and final voting will happen
    on test@  (tflink, 18:04:08)
  * AGREED: 873817 - AcceptedBlocker - This violates the modified
    release criteria mentioned above and is thus accepted as a blocker
    assuming that the proposed changes go through. Will be rejected if
    the changed aren't accepted by test@  (tflink, 18:06:33)

* (873207) No entry in grub2 menu for windows8 in dual boot setup
  install TC7  (tflink, 18:06:46)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873207   (tflink,
    18:06:48)
  * Proposed Blocker, os-prober, NEW  (tflink, 18:06:51)
  * AGREED: 873207 - RejectedBlocker - The dual-boot with windows
    criterion was written for BIOS systems and the UEFI/win8 case is
    different. If it turns out that the BIOS case is affected, please
    file a new bug and propose it as a blocker  (tflink, 18:22:05)

* (867770) anaconda GUI becomes unresponsive  (tflink, 18:22:18)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=867770   (tflink,
    18:22:18)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED  (tflink, 18:22:19)
  * AGREED: 867770 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
    release criteria (in spirit) if a user re-enters the storage spoke
    after reclaiming space: "The installer must be able to create and
    install to any workable partition layout using any file system
    offered in a default installer configuration, LVM, software,
    hardware or BIOS RAID, or combination of the above"  (tflink,
    18:31:32)

* (879030) pungi strips langpacks metadata from comps, breaks langpacks
  installation for DVD  (tflink, 18:31:46)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=879030   (tflink,
    18:31:49)
  * Proposed Blocker, yum, NEW  (tflink, 18:31:51)
  * AGREED: 879030 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
    release criteria for DVD installs and can't be fixed with an update
    post-isntall without reinstalling packages: "All critical path
    actions on release-blocking desktop environments should correctly
    display all sufficiently complete translations available for use"
    (tflink, 18:38:34)

* (860525) dracut-pre-pivot[272]: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad
  superblock on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs,  (tflink, 18:38:45)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860525   (tflink,
    18:38:48)
  * Proposed Blocker, dracut, NEW  (tflink, 18:38:50)
  * AGREED: 860525 - We still don't understand exactly how this is a
    release-blocking issue or which criteria it impacts. Ask for more
    info and revisit later  (tflink, 18:43:51)

* (861219) Switching to discret GPU render system unusable  (tflink,
  18:44:02)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=861219   (tflink,
    18:44:02)
  * Proposed Blocker, xorg-x11-drv-nouveau, NEW  (tflink, 18:44:02)
  * AGREED: 861219 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't hit any of the F18
    release criteria as it doesn't impede basic operation. Thus, is
    rejected as a blocker for F18 final  (tflink, 18:45:38)

* (873144) pressing Esc kills plymouth screen  (tflink, 18:45:47)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873144   (tflink,
    18:45:48)
  * Proposed Blocker, plymouth, NEW  (tflink, 18:45:48)
  * there are several bugs related to this issue and the story isn't
    100% clear. it needs to be cleaned up and discussed later  (tflink,
    18:54:11)
  * ACTION: tflink to clean up fedup upgrade status bugs and propose one
    as a blocker for F18 final  (tflink, 18:55:39)
  * we agree in principle that some status indication is needed during
    upgrade before F18 final is released. however, we don't want to
    accept anything as release blocking without being more specific on
    what the solution we're expecting is  (tflink, 18:56:21)
  * AGREED: 873144 - The situation here isn't 100% clear and needs to be
    cleaned up before farther discussion. Will re-visit when the upgrade
    status issue has been cleaned up  (tflink, 18:57:26)

* (881670) Provide fedup hook to add x-systemd.device-timeout=0 to mount
  options for encrypted file systems that need a passphrase from the
  user  (tflink, 18:57:40)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=881670   (tflink,
    18:57:43)
  * Proposed Blocker, systemd, NEW  (tflink, 18:57:45)
  * AGREED: 881670 - We need more information on potential solutions to
    this class of propblems before deciding on blocker status, will
    re-visit later  (tflink, 19:23:56)

* (868558) anaconda needs to tell yum what's a URL and what's a
  mirrorlist  (tflink, 19:24:13)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868558   (tflink,
    19:24:16)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 19:24:18)
  * AGREED: 868558 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
    release criterion for mirror lists: "The installer must be able to
    use all supported local and remote package source options"  (tflink,
    19:37:39)

* (876223) NFSISO installation doesn't use internally mounted DVD repo,
  instead uses Closest Mirror  (tflink, 19:39:28)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876223   (tflink,
    19:39:31)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA  (tflink, 19:39:34)
  * AGREED: 876223 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
    release criterion for NFSISO: "The installer must be able to use all
    supported local and remote package source options"  (tflink,
    19:46:58)

* (877623) fedup does not seem to verify the update source  (tflink,
  19:48:33)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=877623   (tflink,
    19:48:33)
  * Proposed Blocker, fedup, NEW  (tflink, 19:48:33)

* (872088) fedup giving grubby backtrace  (tflink, 19:57:38)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=872088   (tflink,
    19:57:38)
  * Proposed Blocker, fedup, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 19:57:38)
  * AGREED: 872088 - This needs more triage into why and in what
    situations the TB is occuring before deciding on blocker status.
    Will revisit later.  (tflink, 20:01:21)

* Open Floor  (tflink, 20:03:19)
  * the next blocker review meeting will be 2012-12-05 @ 17:00 UTC
    (tflink, 20:06:32)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/en/get-prerelease now links here, so
    we get more visitors  (kparal, 20:09:36)
  * we will be moving the blocker meetings back to #fedora-bugzappers
    for now - holding it in #fedora-qa is too disruptive  (tflink,
    20:13:46)

Meeting ended at 20:14:26 UTC.




Action Items
------------
* tflink to clean up fedup upgrade status bugs and propose one as a
  blocker for F18 final




Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* tflink
  * tflink to clean up fedup upgrade status bugs and propose one as a
    blocker for F18 final
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




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* nirik (2)
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