F18 Final Blocker Bug Review #1.2 Minutes
Tim Flink
tflink at redhat.com
Mon Dec 3 20:16:30 UTC 2012
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#fedora-qa: f18final-blocker-review-1.2
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Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-12-03/f18final-blocker-review-1.2.2012-12-03-17.25.html
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-12-03/f18final-blocker-review-1.2.2012-12-03-17.25.txt
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-12-03/f18final-blocker-review-1.2.2012-12-03-17.25.log.html
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (tflink, 17:25:12)
* Introduction (tflink, 17:33:07)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (tflink, 17:33:17)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 17:33:23)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(tflink, 17:33:23)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 17:33:28)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink,
17:33:28)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink,
17:33:34)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:33:34)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:33:35)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:33:35)
* The current blocker/nth list consists of: (tflink, 17:33:54)
* 44 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 17:33:57)
* 10 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 17:33:57)
* 21 Proposed NTH (tflink, 17:33:58)
* 3 Accepted NTH (tflink, 17:33:58)
* (882147) SystemError: (32, 'umount: /run/install/isodir: target is
busy. (In some cases useful info about processes that use the device
is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))') (tflink, 17:36:10)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882147 (tflink,
17:36:13)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 17:36:15)
* AGREED: 882147 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - While this is an
obviously invalid operation that probably should be rejected, it
isn't catastropic and is a bit too much of a corner case to block
release over (tflink, 17:42:18)
* (545148) livecd boot from iscsi storage (tflink, 17:42:27)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=545148 (tflink,
17:42:27)
* Proposed Blocker, dracut, NEW (tflink, 17:42:27)
* AGREED: 545148 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't hit any of the F18
release criteria and thus is rejected as a blocker for F18 final.
(tflink, 17:51:37)
* (874553) rd.debug boot option doesn't log to /run/initramfs/init.log
(tflink, 17:51:46)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=874553 (tflink,
17:51:46)
* Proposed Blocker, dracut, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:51:46)
* AGREED: 874553 - RejectedBlocker - While this is a hinderance to
debugging installed systems and images, it doesn't clearly hit any
of the F18 release criteria and is thus rejected as a blocker for
F18 final. (tflink, 17:56:58)
* (873817) inkscape packaging bugs prevent install (tflink, 17:57:08)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873817 (tflink,
17:57:08)
* Proposed Blocker, inkscape, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:57:08)
* AGREED: - In spirit, we are OK with modifying the alpha release
criterion "There must be no file conflicts or unresolved package
dependencies during a media-based (DVD) install" to include more
generic packaging errors. The details and final voting will happen
on test@ (tflink, 18:04:08)
* AGREED: 873817 - AcceptedBlocker - This violates the modified
release criteria mentioned above and is thus accepted as a blocker
assuming that the proposed changes go through. Will be rejected if
the changed aren't accepted by test@ (tflink, 18:06:33)
* (873207) No entry in grub2 menu for windows8 in dual boot setup
install TC7 (tflink, 18:06:46)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873207 (tflink,
18:06:48)
* Proposed Blocker, os-prober, NEW (tflink, 18:06:51)
* AGREED: 873207 - RejectedBlocker - The dual-boot with windows
criterion was written for BIOS systems and the UEFI/win8 case is
different. If it turns out that the BIOS case is affected, please
file a new bug and propose it as a blocker (tflink, 18:22:05)
* (867770) anaconda GUI becomes unresponsive (tflink, 18:22:18)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=867770 (tflink,
18:22:18)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:22:19)
* AGREED: 867770 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
release criteria (in spirit) if a user re-enters the storage spoke
after reclaiming space: "The installer must be able to create and
install to any workable partition layout using any file system
offered in a default installer configuration, LVM, software,
hardware or BIOS RAID, or combination of the above" (tflink,
18:31:32)
* (879030) pungi strips langpacks metadata from comps, breaks langpacks
installation for DVD (tflink, 18:31:46)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=879030 (tflink,
18:31:49)
* Proposed Blocker, yum, NEW (tflink, 18:31:51)
* AGREED: 879030 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
release criteria for DVD installs and can't be fixed with an update
post-isntall without reinstalling packages: "All critical path
actions on release-blocking desktop environments should correctly
display all sufficiently complete translations available for use"
(tflink, 18:38:34)
* (860525) dracut-pre-pivot[272]: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad
superblock on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs, (tflink, 18:38:45)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860525 (tflink,
18:38:48)
* Proposed Blocker, dracut, NEW (tflink, 18:38:50)
* AGREED: 860525 - We still don't understand exactly how this is a
release-blocking issue or which criteria it impacts. Ask for more
info and revisit later (tflink, 18:43:51)
* (861219) Switching to discret GPU render system unusable (tflink,
18:44:02)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=861219 (tflink,
18:44:02)
* Proposed Blocker, xorg-x11-drv-nouveau, NEW (tflink, 18:44:02)
* AGREED: 861219 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't hit any of the F18
release criteria as it doesn't impede basic operation. Thus, is
rejected as a blocker for F18 final (tflink, 18:45:38)
* (873144) pressing Esc kills plymouth screen (tflink, 18:45:47)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873144 (tflink,
18:45:48)
* Proposed Blocker, plymouth, NEW (tflink, 18:45:48)
* there are several bugs related to this issue and the story isn't
100% clear. it needs to be cleaned up and discussed later (tflink,
18:54:11)
* ACTION: tflink to clean up fedup upgrade status bugs and propose one
as a blocker for F18 final (tflink, 18:55:39)
* we agree in principle that some status indication is needed during
upgrade before F18 final is released. however, we don't want to
accept anything as release blocking without being more specific on
what the solution we're expecting is (tflink, 18:56:21)
* AGREED: 873144 - The situation here isn't 100% clear and needs to be
cleaned up before farther discussion. Will re-visit when the upgrade
status issue has been cleaned up (tflink, 18:57:26)
* (881670) Provide fedup hook to add x-systemd.device-timeout=0 to mount
options for encrypted file systems that need a passphrase from the
user (tflink, 18:57:40)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=881670 (tflink,
18:57:43)
* Proposed Blocker, systemd, NEW (tflink, 18:57:45)
* AGREED: 881670 - We need more information on potential solutions to
this class of propblems before deciding on blocker status, will
re-visit later (tflink, 19:23:56)
* (868558) anaconda needs to tell yum what's a URL and what's a
mirrorlist (tflink, 19:24:13)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868558 (tflink,
19:24:16)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED (tflink, 19:24:18)
* AGREED: 868558 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
release criterion for mirror lists: "The installer must be able to
use all supported local and remote package source options" (tflink,
19:37:39)
* (876223) NFSISO installation doesn't use internally mounted DVD repo,
instead uses Closest Mirror (tflink, 19:39:28)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876223 (tflink,
19:39:31)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA (tflink, 19:39:34)
* AGREED: 876223 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
release criterion for NFSISO: "The installer must be able to use all
supported local and remote package source options" (tflink,
19:46:58)
* (877623) fedup does not seem to verify the update source (tflink,
19:48:33)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=877623 (tflink,
19:48:33)
* Proposed Blocker, fedup, NEW (tflink, 19:48:33)
* (872088) fedup giving grubby backtrace (tflink, 19:57:38)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=872088 (tflink,
19:57:38)
* Proposed Blocker, fedup, ASSIGNED (tflink, 19:57:38)
* AGREED: 872088 - This needs more triage into why and in what
situations the TB is occuring before deciding on blocker status.
Will revisit later. (tflink, 20:01:21)
* Open Floor (tflink, 20:03:19)
* the next blocker review meeting will be 2012-12-05 @ 17:00 UTC
(tflink, 20:06:32)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/en/get-prerelease now links here, so
we get more visitors (kparal, 20:09:36)
* we will be moving the blocker meetings back to #fedora-bugzappers
for now - holding it in #fedora-qa is too disruptive (tflink,
20:13:46)
Meeting ended at 20:14:26 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* tflink to clean up fedup upgrade status bugs and propose one as a
blocker for F18 final
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* tflink
* tflink to clean up fedup upgrade status bugs and propose one as a
blocker for F18 final
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* tflink (271)
* adamw (171)
* kparal (164)
* Viking-Ice (81)
* jreznik (58)
* mel- (10)
* jskladan_ (9)
* barry_scott (7)
* zodbot (7)
* pschindl (7)
* mkrizek (4)
* akshayvyas (4)
* nirik (2)
* satellit (2)
* txenoo (1)
* dgilmore (1)
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