F18 Final Blocker Bug Review #2 Minutes

Tim Flink tflink at redhat.com
Wed Dec 5 20:17:33 UTC 2012 

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#fedora-bugzappers: f18final-blocker-review-2
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Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-05/f18final-blocker-review-2.2012-12-05-17.01.html
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-05/f18final-blocker-review-2.2012-12-05-17.01.txt
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-05/f18final-blocker-review-2.2012-12-05-17.01.log.html


Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call  (tflink, 17:01:14)

* Introduction  (tflink, 17:07:20)
  * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
    nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
    the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
    bugs.  (tflink, 17:07:33)
  * We'll be following the process outlined at:  (tflink, 17:07:42)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
    (tflink, 17:07:42)
  * The bugs up for review today are available at:  (tflink, 17:07:48)
  * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current   (tflink,
    17:07:48)
  * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at:  (tflink,
    17:07:54)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 17:07:54)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 17:07:54)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 17:07:54)
  * The current count of blocker and NTH bugs is:  (tflink, 17:08:08)
  * 25 Proposed Blockers  (tflink, 17:08:17)
  * 15 Accepted Blockers  (tflink, 17:08:18)
  * 23 Proposed NTH  (tflink, 17:08:18)
  * 5 Accepted NTH  (tflink, 17:08:18)
  * LINK:
    http://tflink.fedorapeople.org/blockerbugs/sorted/sortedBlockers.html
    (tflink, 17:09:47)
  * 12 proposed blockers highlighted for discussion  (tflink, 17:09:58)

* (851265) booting a wrong arch results in a black screen  (tflink,
  17:10:40)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=851265   (tflink,
    17:10:40)
  * Proposed Blocker, grub2, NEW  (tflink, 17:10:40)
  * AGREED: 851265 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - While this is
    inconvenient, it is easily workaround-able (don't boot an image that
    your arch can't support) it is rejected as a blocker for F18 final.
    However, some warning message would be nice and a tested fix would
    be considered past freeze.  (tflink, 17:16:37)

* (873220) dracut ignores /etc/modprobe.d blacklist  (tflink, 17:16:42)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873220   (tflink,
    17:16:45)
  * Proposed Blocker, dracut, NEW  (tflink, 17:16:47)
  * AGREED: 873220 - RejectedBlocker - Given our understanding at this
    time, this mostly affects the third-party graphics drivers which
    does not violate any F18 release criteria and could be fixed with an
    update. Therefore rejected as a blocker for F18 final (already
    accepted as NTH, a tested fix would be considered past freeze)
    (tflink, 17:26:49)

* (881670) Provide fedup hook to add x-systemd.device-timeout=0 to mount
  options for encrypted file systems that need a passphrase from the
  user  (tflink, 17:27:44)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=881670   (tflink,
    17:27:47)
  * Proposed Blocker, systemd, NEW  (tflink, 17:27:50)
  * there is still a lot of confusion around this issue and there is
    currently not enough information to make a decision on blocker
    status. will re-visit when there is more info  (tflink, 17:28:41)

* (870753) [abrt] gnome-font-viewer-3.6.0-1.fc18: load_font_infos:
  Process /usr/bin/gnome-font-viewer was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV)
  (tflink, 17:30:08)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=870753   (tflink,
    17:30:11)
  * Proposed Blocker, gnome-font-viewer, MODIFIED  (tflink, 17:30:14)
  * AGREED: 870753 - It's still unclear on whether this is still
    crashing or just displaying a bogus error message. We need more info
    on current behavior before deciding on blocker status. Request that
    a new gnome-font-viewer be built with the in-bug patch and testing
    with the new version to determine current behavior.  (tflink,
    17:40:42)

* (862828) cancelling network time service kills firstboot  (tflink,
  17:40:51)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862828   (tflink,
    17:40:51)
  * Proposed Blocker, system-config-date, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 17:40:52)
  * AGREED: 862828 - AcceptedBlocker - This provides a pretty bad first
    impression but doesn't completely violate any F18 release criterion.
    Accepted (pending criterion revision proposal) as it violates the
    following F18 alpha release criterion in spirit: "In most cases, a
    system installed according to any of the above criteria must boot to
    the 'firstboot' utility on the first boot after installation,
    without unintended user intervention ..."  (tflink, 17:50:12)
  * ACTION: adamw to revise firstboot criterion to cover successful exit
    / next boot run suppression  (adamw, 17:51:21)

* (873831) Make /tmp bigger, or use target image for yum downloads
  (tflink, 17:52:33)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873831   (tflink,
    17:52:36)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 17:52:38)
  * AGREED: 873831 - RejectedBlocker - While unfortunate, this seems to
    be a little too much of a corner case to take as a blocker for F18
    final (little memory, many extra repos) and is rejected as a
    blocker. Please re-propose if it turns out to be a more general
    problem than we're understanding.  (tflink, 18:03:27)

* (874486) progress indicator for mediacheck isn't displayed, so users
  may think the installer is hung  (tflink, 18:03:33)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=874486   (tflink,
    18:03:36)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 18:03:39)
  * AGREED: 874486 - AcceptedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - Violates the
    following F18 final release criterion: "If there is an embedded
    checksum in the image, it must match. If there is a related UI
    element displayed after booting the image, it must work and display
    the correct result". However, removing mediacheck as the default
    boot option would be enough to remove release blocking status. A
    tested complete fix would be considered past freeze.  (tflink,
    18:13:16)

* (876716) anaconda crashes after setting root password  (tflink,
  18:13:31)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876716   (tflink,
    18:13:31)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 18:13:31)
  * AGREED: 876716 - AcceptedBlocker - While this doesn't happen every
    time, it seems to be happening enough to justify release-blocking
    status. Violates the following F18 final release criterion as a
    not-uncommon timing issue: "The installer must be able to complete
    an installation using all supported interfaces"  (tflink, 18:18:08)

* (882722) 'KeyError: None' while trying to install F18 beta  (tflink,
  18:18:21)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882722   (tflink,
    18:18:21)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 18:18:21)
  * AGREED: 882722 - This seems like it would qualify as a blocker for
    F18 final but we would like to get more information on what install
    configurations cause this before making a final decision. Will
    re-visit when there is more information.  (tflink, 18:28:52)

* (873144) pressing Esc kills plymouth screen  (tflink, 18:28:56)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873144   (tflink,
    18:28:56)
  * Proposed Blocker, plymouth, NEW  (tflink, 18:28:57)
  * still waiting for tflink to re-organize as a clear issue, will
    re-visit when that happens  (tflink, 18:31:51)

* (872088) fedup giving grubby backtrace  (tflink, 18:33:12)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=872088   (tflink,
    18:33:12)
  * Proposed Blocker, fedup, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 18:33:12)
  * AGREED: 872088 - While it seems clear that people are still hitting
    grubby issues, the exact cause of this isn't clear and might be
    better to split off into a new report. will revisit later  (tflink,
    18:38:04)

* (860789) Multihead displays shows artifacts  (tflink, 18:39:57)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860789   (tflink,
    18:39:57)
  * Proposed Blocker, xorg-x11-drv-ati, NEW  (tflink, 18:39:57)
  * AGREED: 860789 - RejectedBlocker - This could be fixed with an
    update in most situations and is too hardware/setup specific to
    block the release of F18 final.  (tflink, 18:46:24)

* Open Floor  (tflink, 18:49:58)
  * if no need is seen before then, the next blocker review meeting will
    be on 2012-12-05 @ 17:00 UTC  (tflink, 20:14:24)

Meeting ended at 20:14:54 UTC.




Action Items
------------
* adamw to revise firstboot criterion to cover successful exit / next
  boot run suppression




Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* adamw
  * adamw to revise firstboot criterion to cover successful exit / next
    boot run suppression
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* tflink (230)
* kparal (112)
* adamw (102)
* Viking-Ice (87)
* jreznik (53)
* akshayvyas (15)
* buggbot (13)
* pschindl (13)
* robatino (6)
* zodbot (5)
* eblake (3)
* rbergeron (2)
* satellit (1)




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