2012-12-10 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting: Blocker Review Minutes
Tim Flink
tflink at redhat.com
Mon Dec 10 20:08:56 UTC 2012
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#fedora-bugzappers: f18final-blocker-review-3
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The review meeting today spawned out of the QA meeting earlier today
instead of doing our usual mini-review, so there was no separate
announcement.
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-10/f18final-blocker-review-3.2012-12-10-17.13.html
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-10/f18final-blocker-review-3.2012-12-10-17.13.txt
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-10/f18final-blocker-review-3.2012-12-10-17.13.log.html
Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (tflink, 17:13:22)
* Introduction (tflink, 17:16:12)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (tflink, 17:16:18)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 17:16:23)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(tflink, 17:16:23)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 17:16:29)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink,
17:16:29)
* note that due to the number of currently proposed blockers, the list
is currently being filtered for bugs which are ready for discussion
(tflink, 17:16:57)
* LINK:
http://tflink.fedorapeople.org/blockerbugs/sorted/sortedBlockers.html
(tflink, 17:17:23)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink,
17:17:35)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:17:35)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:17:35)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:17:35)
* the current full list of blocker/nth bugs is at: (tflink, 17:18:04)
* 28 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 17:18:10)
* 14 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 17:18:10)
* 26 Proposed NTH (tflink, 17:18:10)
* 3 Accepted NTH (tflink, 17:18:10)
* the list of bugs ready for discussion is at: (tflink, 17:18:23)
* 16 Proposed Blockers deemed ready for discussion (tflink, 17:18:36)
* (885378) AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'name'
(tflink, 17:19:23)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885378 (tflink,
17:19:26)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 17:19:28)
* AGREED: 885378 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
release criterion for reuse of encrypted LVM layouts: "The installer
must be able to create and install to any workable partition layout
using any file system offered in a default installer configuration,
LVM, software, hardware or BIOS RAID, or combination of the above"
(tflink, 17:28:50)
* (885124) Notifications stays after clicking on 'x' button (tflink,
17:29:02)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885124 (tflink,
17:29:02)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (tflink, 17:29:02)
* AGREED: 885124 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - While this is a
polish issue with the default interface, there are workarounds and
it does not seem to be enough to block release over. Accepted as NTH
for F18 final and a tested fix would be considered past freeze.
(tflink, 17:40:11)
* (866887) the default keyboard layout isn't comfortable with the
selected language (tflink, 17:40:20)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866887 (tflink,
17:40:24)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST (tflink, 17:40:26)
* it sounds like we are missing some info on this bug, will re-visit
when more information is available (tflink, 17:45:07)
* (885641) partitioning: Continue says I don't have enough space, Done
says I do (tflink, 17:45:44)
* ACTION: kparal to ask Vratislav about 866887 and present a summary
on wednesday. also ping jreznik (kparal, 17:45:47)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885641 (tflink,
17:45:47)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 17:45:50)
* LINK: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Error_Msg-Disk_too_small.png
also (satellit_, 18:08:15)
* AGREED: 885641 - AcceptedNTH - While this is a bad way for the
installer to fail, it's not clear whether or not it's actually a
blocker. Accepted as NTH, blocker status will be revisited when more
info is available. A tested fix would be considered past freeze.
(tflink, 18:10:55)
* (885090) Inconsistent locations of font files on UEFI systems
(tflink, 18:11:06)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885090 (tflink,
18:11:06)
* Proposed Blocker, grub2, NEW (tflink, 18:11:06)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859632 is one of
them (tflink, 18:12:19)
* AGREED: 885090 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This isn't serious
enough by itself to warrent blocker status for F18 final but it
would be nice to have correct fonts for release. A tested fix would
be considered after freeze. (tflink, 18:29:28)
* (859632) gfxterm hangs when editing boot entries with large font
(tflink, 18:29:34)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859632 (tflink,
18:29:37)
* Proposed Blocker, grub2, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:29:40)
* AGREED: 859632 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - Even though this is
an actual hang in grub, it is too much of a corner case to block
release for. However, a tested fix would be considered after freeze.
(tflink, 18:56:58)
* (880271) Wrong keyboard layout in initramdisk (tflink, 18:57:15)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=880271 (tflink,
18:57:15)
* Proposed Blocker, dracut, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:57:16)
* AGREED: 880271 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional violation of the
following F18 final release criterion for non-US keymaps: "For each
one of the release-blocking package sets, it must be possible to
successfully complete an upgrade from a fully updated installation
of the previous stable Fedora release with that package set
installed, using all officially recommended upgrade mechanisms. The
upgraded system must meet all release criteria" (tflink, 19:03:33)
* (869584) ibus menu in kde panel does not work, disappears immediately
(tflink, 19:03:39)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=869584 (tflink,
19:03:42)
* Proposed Blocker, ibus, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:03:45)
* AGREED: 869584 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional violation of the
following F18 final release criterion for asian language users of
KDE: "ll elements of the default panel (or equivalent) configuration
in all release-blocking desktops must function correctly in common
use" (tflink, 19:13:36)
* (885133) no notification when unmounting external HDDs and data are
still not synced (tflink, 19:13:47)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885133 (tflink,
19:13:50)
* Proposed Blocker, gvfs, NEW (tflink, 19:13:52)
* AGREED: 885133 - AcceptedBlocker - Accepted due to conditional
violation of the following F18 final release criteria for external
hard drives: "All known bugs that can cause corruption of user data
must be fixed or documented at Common F18 bugs" (tflink, 19:21:13)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885147 (tflink,
19:21:35)
* Proposed Blocker, system-config-users, NEW (tflink, 19:21:38)
* AGREED: 885133 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - While this is a
technical violation of "All elements of the default panel (or
equivalent) configuration in all release-blocking desktops must
function correctly in common use", it could be fixed with an update,
isn't likely to affect livecds and can be worked around by editing
the user instead of the group. (tflink, 19:29:18)
* (885279) AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute
'startswith' (tflink, 19:29:28)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885279 (tflink,
19:29:31)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 19:29:34)
* AGREED: 885279 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
release criterion for adding a swap partition in custom
partitioning: "The installer must be able to create and install to
any workable partition layout using any file system offered in a
default installer configuration, LVM, software, hardware or BIOS
RAID, or combination of the above" (tflink, 19:32:52)
* (884896) DiskException: no partition specified (tflink, 19:32:57)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=884896 (tflink,
19:33:00)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA (tflink, 19:33:02)
* AGREED: 884896 - We need more information on exactly what the
trigger for this bug is before deciding on blocker status, will
re-visit when there is more info (tflink, 19:38:31)
* (882722) 'KeyError: None' while trying to install F18 beta (tflink,
19:38:46)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882722 (tflink,
19:38:47)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA (tflink, 19:38:47)
* AGREED: 882722 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional violation of the
following F18 final release criterion for reuse of encrypted VGs:
"The installer must be able to create and install to any workable
partition layout using any file system offered in a default
installer configuration, LVM, software, hardware or BIOS RAID, or
combination of the above" (tflink, 19:46:18)
* (884660) Anaconda fails to load on machines with multiple NICs
(tflink, 19:46:25)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=884660 (tflink,
19:46:25)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:46:25)
* AGREED: 884660 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional violation of the
following F18 alpha release criterion for systems with multiple
connected nics: "The installer must boot and run on all primary
architectures, with all system firmware types that are common on
those architectures, from default live image, DVD, and boot.iso
install media when written to an optical disc and when written to a
USB stick ..." (tflink, 19:51:16)
* (885240) GRUB is installed despite Do not install bootloader being
selected (tflink, 19:51:43)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885240 (tflink,
19:51:46)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA (tflink, 19:51:49)
* AGREED: 885240 - AcceptedBlocker - The original report violates the
following F18 final release criterion : "The installer must be able
to install into free space alongside an existing clean
single-partition Windows installation and either install a
bootloader which can boot into the Windows installation, or leave
the Windows bootloader untouched and working". The other issues are
not affected by this and should be separated into new bugs.
(tflink, 19:59:36)
* Open Floor (tflink, 19:59:59)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885853 (kparal,
20:00:38)
* The next blocker review meeting is scheduled for 2012-12-12 @ 17:00
UTC (tflink, 20:05:45)
Meeting ended at 20:06:11 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* kparal to ask Vratislav about 866887 and present a summary on
wednesday. also ping jreznik
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* jreznik
* kparal to ask Vratislav about 866887 and present a summary on
wednesday. also ping jreznik
* kparal
* kparal to ask Vratislav about 866887 and present a summary on
wednesday. also ping jreznik
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* tflink (278)
* adamw (217)
* kparal (139)
* jreznik (58)
* Viking-Ice (57)
* buggbot (18)
* jskladan (7)
* mkrizek (5)
* zodbot (4)
* satellit_ (3)
* satellit (1)
* rbergeron (1)
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