[Test-Announce] 2012-12-12 @ 17:00 UTC - F18 Final Blocker Bug Review #4
Tim Flink
tflink at redhat.com
Wed Dec 12 20:17:01 UTC 2012
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#fedora-bugzappers: f18final-blocker-review-4
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We still haven't gotten to the NTH bugs due to the number of blockers
to review. There will be a NTH bug review meeting in the next week - exact
time/date TBD.
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-12/f18final-blocker-review-4.2012-12-12-17.01.html
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-12/f18final-blocker-review-4.2012-12-12-17.01.txt
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-12/f18final-blocker-review-4.2012-12-12-17.01.log.html
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (tflink, 17:01:30)
* Introduction (tflink, 17:13:22)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (tflink, 17:13:27)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 17:13:33)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(tflink, 17:13:33)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 17:13:39)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink,
17:13:39)
* note that due to the length of the current blocker list, we'll be
working off the bugs marked for discussion at: (tflink, 17:14:05)
* LINK:
http://tflink.fedorapeople.org/blockerbugs/sorted/sortedBlockers.html
(tflink, 17:14:20)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink,
17:14:32)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:14:32)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:14:32)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:14:32)
* 24 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 17:15:43)
* 21 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 17:15:43)
* 35 Proposed NTH (tflink, 17:15:43)
* 6 Accepted NTH (tflink, 17:15:43)
* 12 proposed blockers ready for discussion (tflink, 17:15:58)
* (885284) grub is not installed in an all defaults autopart
installation, system not bootable (tflink, 17:17:05)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885284 (tflink,
17:17:08)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:17:11)
* AGREED: 885284 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha
release criterion: "In most cases, a system installed according to
any of the above criteria must boot to the 'firstboot' utility on
the first boot after installation, without unintended user
intervention, unless the user explicitly chooses to boot in
non-graphical mode..." (tflink, 17:22:50)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=879046 (tflink,
17:23:00)
* Proposed Blocker, mactel-boot, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:23:02)
* AGREED: 885284 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha
release criterion for Apple hardware: "In most cases, a system
installed according to any of the above criteria must boot to the
'firstboot' utility on the first boot after installation, without
unintended user intervention, unless the user explicitly chooses to
boot in non-graphical mode...". (tflink, 17:37:47)
* (866887) Anaconda defaults keyboard layout to US for all languages
(tflink, 17:37:55)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866887 (tflink,
17:37:58)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:38:01)
* AGREED: 866887 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - While this doesn't
directly violate any of the F18 release criteria, it is a
non-obvious annoyance for users of non-US keyboards. A tested fix
would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 17:43:46)
* (886061) core fedora repository error must be fatal, otherwise the
upgraded system might be broken heavily (tflink, 17:44:45)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886061 (tflink,
17:44:48)
* Proposed Blocker, fedup, NEW (tflink, 17:44:51)
* AGREED: 886061 - This sounds like a blocker but we'd like to get
more developer input before making a decision on blocker status
(tflink, 17:58:23)
* (886319) ImportError: No module named lib.space (tflink, 17:58:34)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886319 (tflink,
17:58:34)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 17:58:34)
* AGREED: 886319 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha
release criterion: "The installer must boot (if appropriate) and run
on all primary architectures, with all system firmware types that
are common on those architectures, from default live image, DVD, and
boot.iso install media when written to an optical disc and when
written to a USB stick with at least one of the officially supported
methods" (tflink, 18:02:28)
* (886199) mokutil calculates incorrect signature size (tflink,
18:02:43)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886199 (tflink,
18:02:43)
* Proposed Blocker, shim, NEW (tflink, 18:02:43)
* AGREED: 886199 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This doesn't viiolate
any F18 release criteria but would be better to pull in before
release in case secureboot is affected. A tested fix would be
considered after freeze. (tflink, 18:13:10)
* (885912) Final-TC1 Auto Partition will not produce working Dual Boot
(tflink, 18:13:17)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885912 (tflink,
18:13:20)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 18:13:23)
* ACTION: adamw to poke windows multiboot (885912), see if he can
reproduce and identify the trigger (adamw, 18:26:00)
* AGREED: 885912 - It isn't completely clear what is causing this
issue and depending on the details, this may or may not be a
blocker. Will revisit when more information is available. (tflink,
18:26:49)
* (853636) poor checking of storage config against software set space
needs (tflink, 18:27:01)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853636 (tflink,
18:27:04)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:27:06)
* AGREED: 853636 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 beta
release criterion for partitions too small for installation: "The
installer's custom partitioning mode must be capable of the
following ... Rejecting obviously invalid operations without
crashing" (tflink, 18:33:51)
* (869978) %packages --default doesn't install default system, but
minimal one (tflink, 18:36:13)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=869978 (tflink,
18:36:16)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:36:18)
* AGREED: 869978 - AcceptedBlocker - While there is no specific
criterion for kickstart directives for F18, they are being decided
on a case-by-case basis - this bug was determined to be
common/serious enough to justify release blocking status. (tflink,
18:42:47)
* (885853) systemd-upgrade.target is copied to the upgraded system,
rendering it unbootable (tflink, 18:42:54)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885853 (tflink,
18:42:57)
* Proposed Blocker, fedup-dracut, NEW (tflink, 18:43:01)
* AGREED: 885853 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't seem likely to
impact many real world systems and it is workaround-able in the
worst case. Not severe enough to justify release blocking status but
it should at least be documented as a commonbug (tflink, 18:50:40)
* (884833) exiting from advanced user creation program in firstboot
breaks firstboot (tflink, 18:50:59)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=884833 (tflink,
18:51:02)
* Proposed Blocker, firstboot, NEW (tflink, 18:51:05)
* AGREED: 884833 - RejectedBlocker - This behavior existed in F17 and
wasn't a huge problem. It seems like too much of a corner case to
block release over for F18 final. NTH status would be considered
depending on the size/impact of the fix. (tflink, 19:34:52)
* (854904) Quitting Anaconda in LiveCD reboots machine (tflink,
19:36:13)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=854904 (tflink,
19:36:13)
* Proposed NTH, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:36:13)
* AGREED: 854904 - AcceptedNTH - This is an annoyance that would be
nice to fix but can't be fixed with an update. A tested fix would be
considered past freeze. (tflink, 19:39:45)
* (854722) autologin doesn't work in GDM (tflink, 19:39:50)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=854722 (tflink,
19:39:50)
* Proposed NTH, gdm, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:39:50)
* AGREED: 854722 - AcceptedNTH - autologin on live images is the
intended behavior and can't be fixed with an update post-release. A
tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 19:43:25)
* Open Floor (tflink, 19:44:26)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856456 (adamw,
19:46:50)
* (856456) Anaconda no longer has option to set hostname in UI
(tflink, 19:49:23)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856456 (tflink,
19:49:23)
* Proposed NTH, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 19:49:23)
* AGREED: 856456 - AcceptedNTH - This is a change in functionality
from F17 that many users expect and can't be fixed with an update
post-release. A tested fix would be considered past freeze.
(tflink, 19:53:05)
* Open Floor (part 2) (tflink, 19:53:29)
* There will be an NTH review meeting at some point in the next week,
time TBD (tflink, 20:11:31)
* ACTION: tflink to comment on all proposed NTH, asking for dev input
on whether or not a fix is even practical for F18 final (tflink,
20:12:51)
Meeting ended at 20:14:15 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* adamw to poke windows multiboot (885912), see if he can reproduce and
identify the trigger
* tflink to comment on all proposed NTH, asking for dev input on whether
or not a fix is even practical for F18 final
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* adamw
* adamw to poke windows multiboot (885912), see if he can reproduce
and identify the trigger
* tflink
* tflink to comment on all proposed NTH, asking for dev input on
whether or not a fix is even practical for F18 final
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (241)
* kparal (190)
* Viking-Ice (99)
* jreznik (36)
* buggbot (19)
* pjones (7)
* zodbot (7)
* nirik (2)
* satellit (2)
* jwb (1)
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