Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2012-05-03 at 18UTC)

Kevin Fenzi kevin at
Thu May 3 18:40:08 UTC 2012

#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2012-05-03)

Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at

Meeting summary
* Robot Roll Call  (nirik, 18:00:00)

* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks.  (nirik, 18:05:13)

* two factor auth status  (nirik, 18:13:02)

* Staging re-work status  (nirik, 18:16:51)
  * should hopefully move forward next week  (nirik, 18:17:25)

* Applications status / discussion  (nirik, 18:18:10)
  * threebean is working through reviews for fedmsg  (nirik, 18:18:42)

* Upcoming Tasks/Items  (nirik, 18:23:53)
  * 2012-05-01 - nag fi-apprentices.  (nirik, 18:23:53)
  * 2011-05-03 - gitweb-cache removal day.  (nirik, 18:23:53)
  * 2012-05-08 to 2012-05-22 FINAL FREEZE  (nirik, 18:23:53)
  * 2012-05-09 - Check if puppet works on f17 yet.  (nirik, 18:23:53)
  * 2012-05-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices  (nirik, 18:23:54)
  * 2012-05-22 - F17 release  (nirik, 18:23:58)

* Open Floor  (nirik, 18:26:56)

Meeting ended at 18:39:33 UTC.

Action Items

Action Items, by person
  * (none)

People Present (lines said)
* nirik (80)
* ctria (13)
* wolfkit (7)
* marcdeop (7)
* relrod (7)
* smooge (6)
* abadger1999 (5)
* zodbot (5)
* jwb (5)
* kmcgrell (4)
* lmacken (3)
* ianweller (1)
* threebean (0)
* ricky (0)
* mdomsch (0)
* skvidal (0)
* dgilmore (0)
* CodeBlock (0)
18:00:00 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2012-05-03)
18:00:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu May  3 18:00:00 2012 UTC.  The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at
18:00:00 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
18:00:00 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
18:00:00 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
18:00:00 <nirik> #topic Robot Roll Call
18:00:00 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal CodeBlock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean
18:00:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: CodeBlock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge threebean
18:00:20 * wolfkit is here
18:01:25 * relrod (CodeBlock) is here.
18:01:28 * ctria here
18:01:29 * ianweller is here
18:02:44 * marcdeop here
18:03:07 <smooge> crowbot here
18:03:23 * nirik waves. will wait another minute or two
18:04:35 <smooge> am i it?
18:04:49 <nirik> smooge: nope, a few other folks were in before you joined.
18:04:58 <nirik> ok, I guess lets go ahead and dive in...
18:05:13 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks.
18:05:14 <nirik> If any new folks want to give a quick one line bio or any apprentices
18:05:14 <nirik> would like to ask general questions, they can do so now. Anyone?
18:05:23 <marcdeop> me
18:05:31 <nirik> welcome marcdeop.
18:05:39 <kmcgrell> me too
18:06:01 <marcdeop> kmcgrell: go ahea :)
18:06:22 <nirik> if you could give just a little one line intro for us that would be great...
18:07:02 <kmcgrell> :-) I'm sys admin with linux experience, about 12 years with bash and perl scripting
18:07:41 <nirik> kmcgrell: excellent. You are more intested in the sysadmin side of things? or wanting to work on application development?
18:08:19 <kmcgrell> both if possible, I'm just starting to learn python in work so hopefully it will help
18:08:27 <nirik> excellent.
18:09:01 <nirik> I can see you after the meeting in #fedora-admin to get you in the apprentice group if you like... and abadger1999 may be able to point you to some easy application tasks to work on.
18:09:12 <kmcgrell> sure thanks
18:09:21 * abadger1999 peeks in
18:09:24 <nirik> marcdeop: are you more interested in sysadmin work? or application development...
18:09:53 <marcdeop> nirik: depending on what exactly application development is ;)
18:10:01 <marcdeop> anyway, mostly sysadmin
18:10:30 <nirik> well, we develop a number of applications in house for fedora... bodhi (our updates app), pkgdb (package database), fas (fedora account system), etc... they are mostly/all in python.
18:10:48 <marcdeop> I'm 29 years old, from Barcelona, (catalunya,spain). I work as a sysadmin in a 25people company an have been using linux since 1998. I have experience building rpm packages, bash, java, dirsrv,mysql..
18:10:49 <nirik> cool. I can help you with the apprentice setup in fedora-admin after the meeting too...
18:11:10 <nirik> welcome to both of you!
18:11:43 <ctria> welcome!
18:12:03 <nirik> ok, any other questions from apprentices, new folks, or the like?
18:12:23 * marcdeop thanks both nirik and ctria :)
18:12:42 <nirik> ok, moving along then...
18:13:02 <nirik> #topic two factor auth status
18:13:21 * nirik looks for skvidal.
18:13:29 <nirik> we can come back to this one.
18:13:32 <wolfkit> I have fixed a few of the segfaults, but there is still one kind of persistent one that won't go away
18:13:42 <nirik> wolfkit: nasty. ;(
18:13:48 <nirik> any idea who might be able to help track it down?
18:14:02 <wolfkit> yeah, it happens when one pam module says the auth succeeded and pam_url does not succeed, it causes a segfault
18:14:09 <wolfkit> if they both fail it's fine, if they both succeed it's fine
18:14:16 <nirik> huh.
18:14:27 <nirik> perhaps the pam-devel list could assist?
18:15:02 <wolfkit> yeah, perhaps :)  will do a bit more debugging (hoping to get more debuginfo packages installed on the testbox) and then email them if that doesn't help me track it down
18:15:41 <nirik> ok, sounds good.
18:15:50 <nirik> that does sound like something we want fixed before deploying.
18:16:05 <wolfkit> certainly
18:16:47 <nirik> ok, thanks again for working on it.
18:16:51 <nirik> #topic Staging re-work status
18:17:14 <nirik> I'm going to try and move this forward again soon... I'd like to get bapp01 retired before we do it, so a few things left there.
18:17:25 <nirik> #info should hopefully move forward next week
18:17:40 <nirik> of course we have a freeze coming up, so we will see.
18:18:10 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion
18:18:28 <nirik> abadger1999 / lmacken / CodeBlock / threebean / pingou : any application devel news this week?
18:18:42 <nirik> #info threebean is working through reviews for fedmsg
18:19:34 <lmacken> I'm going to wrap up the tagger deployment this week. I got sucked into a bunch of packaging for it
18:19:42 <abadger1999> I was wondering if threebean got help from those new infra contributors on package review but he's not here today.
18:20:02 <nirik> lmacken: cool. I see packages02 still shows as down in haproxy (for tagger)
18:20:14 <relrod> I heard back from daMaestro, he said he got my email for dpsearch help and is going to take a look at it over the next few days and get back to me. That was a few days ago, so I'm probably due to ping him and see if he's had any luck
18:20:16 <abadger1999> I've been busy with GSoC/Board/other paperwork this week :-(
18:20:23 <nirik> abadger1999: yeah, there were a number of reviews, so not sure how many were done by whom.
18:20:29 <ctria> i recently got sponsored as packager so i could probably help with reviews.
18:20:46 <nirik> ctria: excellent. He had a list posted to the infra list.
18:20:49 <ctria> (at least easy ones)
18:20:50 <abadger1999> Going to try to finish up getting the hyperkitty test up on the new box this week.
18:20:58 <relrod> nirik: I know you've been away, but how is the stickynotes review coming along?
18:20:58 <ctria> nirik, i'll check it.
18:21:00 <lmacken> nirik: yeah, it's all good on packages01, but i wanted to deploy to 2 w/o having to manually rpm -e some stuff
18:21:10 <lmacken> so I got pulled into packaging land
18:21:12 <nirik> lmacken: good call.
18:21:33 <nirik> relrod: I should ping on it... not sure where it's at currently. I think patches all landed upstream, so it should be close.
18:21:42 <relrod> cool
18:22:08 <nirik> there was a design team person wanting to look into the themeing some more, I asked them to ping you on that theme you worked up
18:23:01 <nirik> ok, any other app news? or shall we move on?
18:23:45 <relrod> nirik: cool I haven't heard from anyone, but happy to work with people on that
18:23:53 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
18:23:53 <nirik> #info 2012-05-01 - nag fi-apprentices.
18:23:53 <nirik> #info 2011-05-03 - gitweb-cache removal day.
18:23:53 <nirik> #info 2012-05-08 to 2012-05-22 FINAL FREEZE
18:23:53 <nirik> #info 2012-05-09 - Check if puppet works on f17 yet.
18:23:54 <nirik> #info 2012-05-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices
18:23:58 <nirik> #info 2012-05-22 - F17 release
18:24:04 <nirik> relrod: I can get the irc nick, I don't recall off hand..
18:24:13 <nirik> ok, I am going to nag apprentices today. ;)
18:24:21 <nirik> and we head into final freeze next week.
18:24:33 <nirik> any other items folks would like to schedule or note?
18:25:04 <nirik> we might want to start looking at post f17 items...
18:25:25 <nirik> ie, getting application releases scheduled or big work items that we need to do outside a freeze.
18:26:52 <nirik> ok, do be thinking on that. :)
18:26:56 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
18:27:08 <nirik> anyone have items for open floor? questions? comments? ideas?
18:27:20 <smooge> I will be working on the following
18:27:37 <smooge> 1) moving mailing lists from to collab
18:27:38 <ctria> nirik, *, any more stuff for "easy fixers"?
18:27:51 <smooge> 2) moving mailing lists from hosted to hosted-lists
18:28:11 <nirik> smooge: great.
18:28:12 <smooge> I think that is it
18:28:25 <nirik> ctria: I will try and whip up some more when I get caught up.
18:28:48 <ctria> ok, i'll catch you later for questions about FIGs
18:28:54 <nirik> ctria: sounds good.
18:29:37 <relrod> I just realized that tomorrow marks my two years of being a Fedora/FI contributor. Kind of neat. May 4, 2010 I sent my welcome email. :)
18:29:55 <nirik> relrod: congrats! :)
18:30:31 <ctria> relrod, you are getting old and rusty :P
18:30:32 <relrod> nirik: thanks - here's to many more!
18:31:15 <nirik> ok, will close out the meeting in a minute if nothing more.
18:31:21 <jwb> wait
18:31:27 <nirik> jwb: go ahead
18:31:30 <jwb> nirik, i opened that darkserver bug you asked for
18:31:41 <nirik> jwb: yeah, I saw it... haven't had a chance to comment.
18:31:41 <jwb> nirik, and they did an epel update for it to ignore the kernel for now
18:32:07 <jwb> ok.  just wanted to point it out.  not sure if you wanted to roll that update into  production or not
18:32:12 <nirik> that doesn't seem like a very good long term fix, but we can pull that in for now to help the kernel team out.
18:32:34 <nirik> yeah, I bet other packages also hit it.
18:32:47 <nirik> but perhaps not as much since they don't rebuild as often as the kernel does.
18:32:58 <jwb> my thinking as well
18:33:56 <nirik> so, I'd be ok pulling that in for now, but asking for a better long term solution...
18:34:26 <ctria> nirik, one more. when you have time check my response at ticket 3231, to me it looks like the problem is on service and not the monitoring.
18:34:49 <abadger1999> .ticket 3231
18:34:51 <zodbot> abadger1999: #3231 (Figure out why unbound ssl monitoring breaks from time to time) – Fedora Infrastructure -
18:34:51 <nirik> ctria: yeah, saw that too. ;) Still digging thru emails... will start replying/looking at stuff as I have time.
18:35:08 <nirik> so, that instance may have some real issue with that service...
18:36:05 <ctria> yeap. it closes the connection immediately (trying via telnet). Others do wait for some timeout
18:36:27 <nirik> we have seen that error from others as well... but it clears after a bit.
18:36:29 <ctria> (i don't speak native ssl to check it without stunnel)
18:36:37 <nirik> so, perhaps it's a connection limit issue...
18:36:45 <ctria> could be
18:37:03 <nirik> anyhow, will look when I am able.
18:37:58 <nirik> ok, anything else?
18:38:22 <wolfkit> ctria, could try openssl s_client, works like a SSL version of telnet. :)
18:39:18 <ctria> hm� will do, but then i'll have to speak DNS protocol :P
18:39:28 <nirik> Thanks for coming everyone, lets continue over in #fedora-admin, #fedora-apps and #fedora-noc. ;)
18:39:33 <nirik> #endmeeting
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