[Test-Announce] 2012-05-11 @ 17:00 UTC - F17 Final Blocker Bug Review #5

Tim Flink tflink at redhat.com
Fri May 11 20:19:31 UTC 2012

#fedora-bugzappers: f17-final-blocker-review-meeting-5

We were able to get through all of the proposed blockers but didn't get
to the accepted blockers or proposed NTH.

I will be scheduling another review meeting for early next week (probably
Monday) to finish going over the remaining bugs.

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-05-11/f17-final-blocker-review-meeting-5.2012-05-11-17.04.html
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-05-11/f17-final-blocker-review-meeting-5.2012-05-11-17.04.txt
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-05-11/f17-final-blocker-review-meeting-5.2012-05-11-17.04.log.html

Meeting summary
* roll call  (tflink, 17:04:49)

* Introduction  (tflink, 17:15:59)
  * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
    nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
    the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
    bugs.  (tflink, 17:16:12)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
    (tflink, 17:16:32)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers
    (tflink, 17:16:32)
  * LINK:
    (tflink, 17:16:34)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Beta_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 17:16:36)
  * LINK:
    (tflink, 17:16:39)

* (821015) Software Update claims all packages are untrusted  (tflink,
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=821015   (tflink,
  * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED  (tflink, 17:18:28)
  * AGREED: - 821015 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 alpha release
    criterion "The installed system must be able to download and install
    updates with yum and the default graphical package manager in all
    release-blocking desktops" for systems where the user doesn't have
    the root password  (tflink, 17:26:38)

* (819113) abrt-ccpp service not enabled by default on F17  (tflink,
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=819113   (tflink,
  * Proposed Blocker, VERIFIED  (tflink, 17:26:53)
  * AGREED: - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - While this doesn't hit any
    of the release criteria, losing crash reports is not something that
    we want to be doing and would take a well tested fix  (tflink,
  * according to the author, this fix has been in F16 stable for some
    time now  (tflink, 17:31:12)

* (813548) alsa bug makes kernel kill pulseaudio sometimes  (tflink,
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813548   (tflink,
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 17:31:27)
  * AGREED: 813548 - RejectedBlocker  - While somewhat ugly, this bug
    seems to be a corner case that only affects a few users and would be
    fixable with an update for installed systems.  (tflink, 17:37:00)

* (816742) Installer in EFI mode needs to use grub2 and allow /boot on
  LVM  (tflink, 17:37:12)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816742   (tflink,
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 17:37:17)
  * AGREED: - 816742 - RejectedBlocker, RejectedNTH - This doesn't hit
    any of the release criteria - it is well known that grub2-efi is not
    ready for use. No NTH because it is too late to take grub changes
    that aren't accepted as blockers  (tflink, 17:42:08)

* (817037) Installer damage Disks  (tflink, 17:42:20)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817037   (tflink,
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 17:42:21)
  * AGREED: - 817037 - RejectedBlocker, RejectedNTH - There is no clear
    reproducer and it is not clear that this isn't expected behavior
    (autopart with 'use all space' is supposed to clear off all disks')
    (tflink, 17:46:50)

* (820366) Cannot boot 17 Beta installer: /dev/root does not exist
  (tflink, 17:47:04)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=820366   (tflink,
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 17:47:10)
  * AGREED: - 820366 - There is not enough information to decide on
    whether or not this is actually a blocker - ask for more information
    and more re-testing of PXE and ks delivery over nfs  (tflink,

* (813648) gnome-shell shows blank windows on hardware lacking NPOT
  textures  (tflink, 17:54:21)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813648   (tflink,
  * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED  (tflink, 17:54:26)
  * AGREED: - 813648 - AcceptedNTH - This is a graphical issue that
    would affect a minority of users  - there is unclear cosensus on
    whether or not this is enough to be a final blocker (can't fix
    livecds with an update) but enough for NTH.  (tflink, 18:21:39)

* (801650) Fedora PV guest 17 fails to boot under Xen (with SandyBridge
  or newer hardware that do xsave)  (tflink, 18:22:01)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801650   (tflink,
  * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED  (tflink, 18:22:08)
  * AGREED: - 801650 - AcceptedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - Violates the F17
    final release criterion "The release must boot successfully as Xen
    DomU with releases providing a functional, supported Xen Dom0 and
    widely used cloud providers utilizing Xen. This does not include any
    issues limited to the release functioning as Xen Dom0" for some
    newer platforms  (tflink, 18:45:12)

* (819492) GVfs apps should convey when eject/unmount takes a long time
  (tflink, 18:46:25)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=819492   (tflink,
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 18:46:31)
  * AGREED: - 819492 - AcceptedNTH - This is a potentially nasty bug
    that could lead to user data corruption/loss. Well tested fixes will
    be considered past freeze but probably not at the last minute.
    (tflink, 19:06:25)
  * AGREED: - 819492 - AcceptedBlocker (conditional) - The situation as
    is has been decided to be a blocker issue but we recognize that a
    full, proper fix is not practical and would agree to remove blocker
    status once some work was done to mitigate the poential for users to
    lose data  (tflink, 19:16:17)
  * cmurf proposed raising this issue with fesco  (tflink, 19:18:09)

* (811412) F17 Final TC3 has bogus OS X entries in grub2 when installed
  from dd-written images  (tflink, 19:21:02)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=811412   (tflink,
  * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED  (tflink, 19:21:07)
  * AGREED: - 811412 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - This doesn't hit
    any of the release criteria and doesn't seem release critical but it
    looks bad and could cause confusion. thus a well tested fix would be
    accepted  (tflink, 19:33:08)

* (820971) Help -> Content function is broken  (tflink, 19:33:22)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=820971   (tflink,
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 19:33:23)
  * AGREED: - 820971 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 final release
    criterion "All applications listed under the Applications menu or
    category must withstand a basic functionality test and not crash
    after a few minutes of normal use. They must also have working Help
    and Help -> About menu items"  (tflink, 19:35:25)

* (740280) /dev/live no longer exists  (tflink, 19:36:14)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=740280   (tflink,
  * Proposed Blocker, VERIFIED  (tflink, 19:36:15)
  * AGREED: - 740280 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - None of the F17
    release requirements mention persistance in live images and thus
    this isn't a blocker. However, it is a significant feature that we
    would like to see working before release and a tested fix would be
    considered for accepting past freeze  (tflink, 19:38:54)

* (820750) TC4 live install to HD  fails on first try - Partition(s) 1
  on /dev/sda have been written, but we have been unable to inform the
  kernel of the change  (tflink, 19:38:59)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=820750   (tflink,
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 19:39:05)
  * AGREED: - 820750 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 alpha release
    criterion "The installer must be able to complete an installation
    using any locally connected storage interface (e.g. PATA, SATA, SCSI
    etc...) with the default file system " but it's unclear whether
    spin-kickstarts is the right place to fix this  (tflink, 19:46:59)

* (815413) Preupgrade from F16 to F17 Beta does not regenerate
  pam.d/system-auth*, causing systemd-loginctl not to know about user
  sessions, breaking PulseAudio  (tflink, 19:47:35)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=815413   (tflink,
  * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED  (tflink, 19:47:40)
  * AGREED: - 815413 - RejectedBlocker - Given our current
    understanding; this will affect few upgrades and if it does, the fix
    is not difficult. The fix needs to be documented but this bug no
    longer seems like a blocker  (tflink, 19:52:58)
  * the fix for this (re-running authconfig) needs to be documented
    prior to release  (tflink, 19:53:15)

* (820973) Help -> Content function is broken  (tflink, 19:53:30)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=820973   (tflink,
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 19:53:30)
  * AGREED: - 820973 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 final release
    criterion "All applications listed under the Applications menu or
    category must withstand a basic functionality test and not crash
    after a few minutes of normal use. They must also have working Help
    and Help -> About menu items"  (tflink, 19:54:53)

* (821077) Firstboot window does not fit the screen after install from
  F17 TC4 Final KDE Live  (tflink, 19:59:32)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=821077   (tflink,
  * LINK: Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 19:59:37)
  * AGREED: - 821077 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 alpha release
    criterion "In most cases (see Blocker_Bug_FAQ), a system installed
    according to any of the above criteria (or the appropriate Beta or
    Final criteria, when applying this criterion to those releases) must
    boot to the 'firstboot' utility on the first boot after
    installation, without unintended user intervention, unless the user
    explicitly chooses to boot in non-graphical mode. This in  (tflink,

* Open Floor  (tflink, 20:03:30)

Meeting ended at 20:16:15 UTC.

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