2012-10-08, 2012-10-15, 2012-10-22 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap

[Adam Williamson]

Time for another bumper meeting recap. I should stop sucking and do less
of these!

As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20121008 ,
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20121015 and
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20121022 .

Next meeting is scheduled for 2012-10-29 at 1500 UTC in 
#fedora-meeting.
If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please
add them to the Wiki page at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20121029 . Thanks!

2012-10-08
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TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up
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	* "adamw to propose a criterion covering basic (not advanced)
	  re-use of /home for Beta" - not done yet, sorry
	* "adamw to consider revisions to 'kickstart delivery method'
	  criterion" - not done yet
	* "tflink to ask other interested parties (anaconda team,
	  fesco...) to look over the beta criteria and see if there's
	  anything they feel should be dialled down" - not done yet 

TOPIC: Release criteria proposals
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	* Proposed changes to the upgrade criteria for Beta and Final
	  were accepted (see log for exact text) 

TOPIC: Fedora 18 Beta status / mini blocker review
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	* Agreed that we recommended slipping of freeze due to no
	  currently testable upgrade tool for F18
	* Outside of the upgrade tool, install w/ RAID and/or LUKS was
	  another potential issue that needs re-testing 

TOPIC: Open Floor
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N/A

ACTION ITEMS
=======================================================================
	* adamw to consider revisions to 'kickstart delivery method'
	  criterion
	* tflink to ask other interested parties (anaconda team, 
	  fesco...) to look over the beta criteria and see if there's
	  anything they feel should be dialled down 


2012-10-15
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TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up
=======================================================================
	* "adamw to consider revisions to 'kickstart delivery method'
	  criterion" - Adam still didn't get enough round tuits, sorry
	* "tflink to ask other interested parties (anaconda team,
	  fesco...) to look over the beta criteria and see if there's
	  anything they feel should be dialled down" - Tim posted a
	  thread that got some responses but it went down a detour, we
	  will try again

TOPIC: Fedora 18 Beta status / mini blocker review
=======================================================================
	* F18 Beta TC4 landed Saturday, comes with a regression in
	  NetworkManager[1]
	* New upgrade tool is still not testable so far as we know
	* We agreed that as new upgrade tool is still not complete, QA
	  does not recommend freezing for Beta at this time
	* See wiki page for results of mini blocker review

TOPIC: Open Floor
=======================================================================
N/A

ACTION ITEMS
=======================================================================
	* tflink try again with asking other teams to review the
	  updated release criteria
	* adamw to update fesco freeze ticket


2012-10-22
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TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up
=======================================================================
	* "tflink try again with asking other teams to review the
	  updated release criteria" - tim forgot about this, he'll do
	  it now
	* "adamw to update fesco freeze ticket" - this was done[2]

TOPIC: Fedora 18 Beta status / mini blocker review
=======================================================================
	* The new upgrade tool was still not ready, Will says he will
	  have it ready this week if all goes well
	* Agreed that QA still could not recommend freezing for Beta as
	  new upgrade tool is still not available for testing: we would
	  pass this recommendation to FESCo but recognize FESCo may go
	  against the recommendation due to time pressures
	* TC6 seemed a decent build, we would continue with the
	  validation testing
	* See wiki page for results of mini blocker review

TOPIC: Release criteria / test cases
=======================================================================
	* Adam was still working on the partitioning criteria, general
	  agreement at the meeting that requirements for custom
	  partitioning should not be heavy at beta time
	* Many test cases still needed revising for newui, if you feel
	  like helping out, please do

TOPIC: Open Floor
=======================================================================
N/A

ACTION ITEMS
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	* adamw to report recommendation to fesco ticket

1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=866434
2. https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/946#comment:14
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