F19 Final Blocker Bug Review #6 Minutes
Tim Flink
tflink at redhat.com
Mon Jun 17 19:20:49 UTC 2013
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#fedora-blocker-review: f19final-blocker-review-6
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Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-06-17/f19final-blocker-review-6.2013-06-17-16.01.html
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-06-17/f19final-blocker-review-6.2013-06-17-16.01.txt
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-06-17/f19final-blocker-review-6.2013-06-17-16.01.log.html
Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (tflink, 16:01:58)
* Introduction (tflink, 16:05:56)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and freeze
exception bugs. (tflink, 16:06:02)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 16:06:08)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(tflink, 16:06:08)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 16:06:14)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink,
16:06:14)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink,
16:06:21)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Final_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 16:06:22)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Beta_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 16:06:24)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 16:06:27)
* Up for review today, we have: (tflink, 16:06:30)
* 12 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 16:06:35)
* 11 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 16:06:35)
* 14 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:06:35)
* 19 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:06:35)
* (971191) DVD install option unavailable in TUI (tflink, 16:08:27)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=971191 (tflink,
16:08:28)
* Accepted Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:08:28)
* devs are aware of this bug, waiting for update from them (tflink,
16:10:39)
* (968951) g-i-s created user's accounts and settings are copied to new
users created after g-i-s completes but before a reboot (tflink,
16:11:24)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=968951 (tflink,
16:11:28)
* Accepted Blocker, gnome-initial-setup, NEW (tflink, 16:11:30)
* devs are aware of the problem and are working on a fix, nothing for
us to do here (tflink, 16:13:14)
* (969852) Software Update fails to update (tflink, 16:13:27)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=969852 (tflink,
16:13:27)
* Accepted Blocker, gnome-packagekit, ASSIGNED (tflink, 16:13:27)
* devs are aware of the issue and are working on it - no significant
updates yet (tflink, 16:15:24)
* (958426) 19 Final TC1 x86_64 Desktop Live is oversized (larger than 1
GB) (tflink, 16:15:53)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958426 (tflink,
16:15:56)
* Accepted Blocker, LiveCD, NEW (tflink, 16:15:59)
* devs appear to be aware of the issue and are continuing to work on
getting the image size under 1GB (tflink, 16:17:25)
* (974643) console=<foo> not passed onto installed system (tflink,
16:20:26)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974643 (tflink,
16:20:26)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:20:26)
* LINK:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=761490&action=diff
(adamw, 16:24:29)
* AGREED: 974643 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException - Serial
console options are persisted for primary arch using grub and as
such, this does not violate any release criteria and is not a
blocker. However, a tested fix would be considered past freeze.
(tflink, 16:29:44)
* (974711) Drop HAL and beefy install 'ad banners' for F19 final(?)
(tflink, 16:29:52)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974711 (tflink,
16:29:55)
* Proposed Blocker, fedora-logos, NEW (tflink, 16:29:58)
* AGREED: 974711 - AcceptedFreezeException - This is a very visable
polish issue that can't be fixed with an update post-release.
Waiting on feedback from design team before making a decision on
blocker status. (tflink, 16:41:43)
* (974063) Ignore Google documents without a thumbnail URI (tflink,
16:42:16)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974063 (tflink,
16:42:16)
* Proposed Blocker, gjs, ON_QA (tflink, 16:42:16)
* AGREED: 974063 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException - This does
not violate any of the F19 release criteria (GNOME Documents works
in most cases) and is thus rejected as a release blocking bug for
F19 final. However, a tested fix would be considered past freeze.
(tflink, 16:53:59)
* (974778) Wrong locale set by g-s-d with single quote (tflink,
16:54:13)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974778 (tflink,
16:54:13)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-settings-daemon, MODIFIED (tflink,
16:54:13)
* AGREED: 974778 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 final
release criterion for non-english installs: "All applications listed
under the Applications menu or category must withstand a basic
functionality test and not crash after a few minutes of normal use."
(tflink, 17:04:34)
* (974038) [abrt] gnome-shell-3.8.3-1.fc19: wrapped_gobj_toggle_notify:
Process /usr/bin/gnome-shell was killed by signal 5 (SIGTRAP)
(tflink, 17:04:41)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974038 (tflink,
17:04:44)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (tflink, 17:04:47)
* AGREED: 974038 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't seem to be happening
often enough to justify blocking the release of F19. Please
repropose as a blocker if more reports start coming in. If upstream
is of the opinion that this is important, please propose as FE.
(tflink, 17:17:32)
* (974032) bug reporting doesn't work from LiveCD (tflink, 17:17:41)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974032 (tflink,
17:17:41)
* Proposed Blocker, python-meh, POST (tflink, 17:17:41)
* AGREED: 974032 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 alpha
release criterion for live installs: "The installer must be able to
report failures to Bugzilla, with appropriate information included."
(tflink, 17:25:52)
* (974691) Since cleaning up from #974132, nothing gets written to
/var/log/messages (tflink, 17:26:03)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974691 (tflink,
17:26:06)
* Proposed Blocker, rsyslog, NEW (tflink, 17:26:09)
* LINK:
http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_2.3/fhs-2.3.html#VARLOGLOGFILESANDDIRECTORIES
(adamw, 17:31:33)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/Packaging/LogFiles <--
for 600 components ( which of like only 3 depend on rsyslogd ) is
whats needed to fix this (Viking-Ice, 17:33:45)
* AGREED: 974691 - We need more data on how many people are affected
by this bug and whether any of the listed workarounds work. Will
revisit when more data is available. (tflink, 17:37:21)
* (973849) SELinux is preventing /usr/libexec/accounts-daemon from
'read' accesses on the directory /var/log. (tflink, 17:38:36)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=973849 (tflink,
17:38:39)
* Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy-targeted, ON_QA (tflink, 17:38:42)
* AGREED: 973849 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 final
release criterion: "In most cases, there must be no SELinux 'AVC:
denied' messages or abrt crash notifications on initial boot and
subsequent login (see Blocker_Bug_FAQ)" (tflink, 17:43:58)
* (974784) live image composing in koji broken (tflink, 17:44:13)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974784 (tflink,
17:44:13)
* Proposed Blocker, system-config-keyboard, NEW (tflink, 17:44:13)
* AGREED: 974784 - AcceptedBlocker - This blocks the process for
creating live images and we can't continue testing until it is
fixed. Thus, accepted as a release blocking bug for F19 final.
(tflink, 17:48:21)
* (974198) missing letters on various anaconda screens with spice
graphics (tflink, 17:48:33)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974198 (tflink,
17:48:36)
* Proposed Blocker, virt-manager, NEW (tflink, 17:48:39)
* LINK:
http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-06-17_17_58_57-TLblAN5e.png
(Viking-Ice, 18:03:24)
* AGREED: 974198 - AcceptedBlocker - While the cause is still not 100%
clear, this appears to be serious and widespread enough to justify
blocker status. Violates the following F19 release criterion for
live installs in a VM using spice/qxl (installation screens are
garbled, making the process difficult if not impossible): "The
installer must be able to complete an installation using all
supported interfaces" (tflink, 18:12:43)
* (924162) A software selection with dependency errors is allowed to
proceed if the dependency check runs twice (tflink, 18:12:59)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=924162 (tflink,
18:13:02)
* Proposed Blocker, yum, NEW (tflink, 18:13:05)
* AGREED: 924162 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 alpha
release criteria for netinstalls when the main repos have depsolving
errors, leading to a broken install: "When doing a graphical install
using the dedicated installer images, the installer must be able to
install each of the release blocking desktops, as well as the
minimal package set." (tflink, 18:36:54)
* (968808) Interlingua installs result in errors setting locale and
apparent failure of g-i-s to create a user account (tflink, 18:43:53)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=968808 (tflink,
18:43:56)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:43:58)
* AGREED: 968808 - AcceptedFreezeException - Locale issues
post-install can be pretty ugly and would be best to fix before
release. A tested fix would be considered after freeze. (tflink,
18:51:10)
* (971050) initial-setup runs to completion on F19-TC1 but does not make
any changes (tflink, 18:51:20)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=971050 (tflink,
18:51:23)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, initial-setup, POST (tflink, 18:51:26)
* AGREED: 971050 - AcceptedFreezeException - This causes problems in
the initial configuration of the ARM images and would be nice to fix
prior to release. A tested fix would be considered after freeze.
(tflink, 18:59:39)
* (971117) No processing for event 'report_Uploader' is defined
(tflink, 19:00:47)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=971117 (tflink,
19:00:50)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, libreport, ON_QA (tflink, 19:00:52)
* AGREED: 971117 - AcceptedFreezeException - The file reporter is not
required to work in the event of an installer traceback but it can
be rather useful and can't be fixed with a post-release update. A
tested fix would be considered after freeze. (tflink, 19:03:40)
* Open Floor (tflink, 19:06:33)
Meeting ended at 19:18:40 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (208)
* kparal (133)
* Viking-Ice (98)
* jreznik (42)
* zodbot (7)
* randomuser (5)
* dgilmore (4)
* handsome_pirate (2)
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