Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2015-03-12 17:00 - 19:10 UTC)
James Antill
james at fedoraproject.org
Thu Mar 12 19:14:34 UTC 2015
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#fedora-meeting-1: fpc
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Meeting started by geppetto at 17:00:54 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2015-03-12/fpc.2015-03-12-17.00.log.html
.
Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (geppetto, 17:00:56)
* Schedule (geppetto, 17:05:30)
* LINK:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/packaging/2015-March/010497.html
(geppetto, 17:05:32)
* #503 Changes/LegacyJDKsInFedora (geppetto, 17:05:47)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/503 (geppetto, 17:05:47)
* ACTION: Someone needs to make a draft of what you'd like us to vote
on, like recommended package naming. (geppetto, 17:08:48)
* #508 New GID for openstack-neutron (geppetto, 17:08:57)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/508 (geppetto, 17:09:02)
* ACTION: If you setup LDAP before package install then it'll just
work with "dynamic" GIDs. (geppetto, 17:21:57)
* LINK:
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/openstack-trove.git/tree/openstack-trove.spec#n276
(mbooth, 17:22:12)
* ACTION: If you still think you need a static GID, you need to give a
better reason than just "it might be easier". Eg. shared storage.
(geppetto, 17:23:09)
* #509 Further bootstrapping guideline changes (geppetto, 17:23:18)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/509 (geppetto, 17:23:22)
* ACTION: Seems that people do use --with/--without for bootstrapping
… so we can't just get rid of it. A new policy to vote on that has a
changable default and reacts to --with--without would be nice. Maybe
bcond? (geppetto, 17:37:20)
* #126 bundling exception for scintilla (geppetto, 17:38:16)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/126 (geppetto, 17:38:23)
* ACTION: Given the scope of the bundling here, we need input from the
other package maintainers. At the very least they should have
bundled() provides, better would be to help unbundle this giant
mess. (geppetto, 17:47:49)
* #248 python-feedgenerator - a standalone version of a bundled
library (geppetto, 17:48:09)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/248 (geppetto, 17:48:14)
* ACTION: what spot said in comment #8 makes sense to us; if you still
want this and that doesn't work, reopen. (geppetto, 17:54:21)
* #303 Consider reverting decision to ban %{?_isa} in BuildRequires
(geppetto, 17:55:16)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/303 (geppetto, 17:55:17)
* ACTION: We have no problem changing this _if the tools work_.
yum-builddep doesn't, the dnf builddep rewrite also doesn't work.
koschei which is a new Fedora tool also relies on not having to
download/extract .src.rpm files. (geppetto, 18:15:00)
* ACTION: So if you want to change policy here someone will have to
speak to and work with all the tool authors to make sure the tools
still work, if they do then changing policy should be trivial.
(geppetto, 18:15:59)
* #497 Clean up BuildRequires section; don't try to define the
minimal build en (geppetto, 18:16:18)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/497 (geppetto, 18:16:23)
* Open Floor (geppetto, 18:17:38)
* #510 Bundling exception for takari-archiver (geppetto, 18:19:12)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/510 (geppetto, 18:19:28)
* ACTION: Bundling exception for FileMode in takari-archiver (+1:5,
0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 18:23:58)
* Open Floor (geppetto, 18:24:03)
* Lots more talking about ticket 303, arched build requires and using
_isa in buildrequires (geppetto, 19:05:15)
Meeting ended at 19:09:35 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* Someone needs to make a draft of what you'd like us to vote on, like
recommended package naming.
* If you setup LDAP before package install then it'll just work with
"dynamic" GIDs.
* If you still think you need a static GID, you need to give a better
reason than just "it might be easier". Eg. shared storage.
* Seems that people do use --with/--without for bootstrapping … so we
can't just get rid of it. A new policy to vote on that has a changable
default and reacts to --with--without would be nice. Maybe bcond?
* Given the scope of the bundling here, we need input from the other
package maintainers. At the very least they should have bundled()
provides, better would be to help unbundle this giant mess.
* what spot said in comment #8 makes sense to us; if you still want this
and that doesn't work, reopen.
* We have no problem changing this _if the tools work_. yum-builddep
doesn't, the dnf builddep rewrite also doesn't work. koschei which is
a new Fedora tool also relies on not having to download/extract
.src.rpm files.
* So if you want to change policy here someone will have to speak to and
work with all the tool authors to make sure the tools still work, if
they do then changing policy should be trivial.
* Bundling exception for FileMode in takari-archiver (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0)
Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* Someone needs to make a draft of what you'd like us to vote on, like
recommended package naming.
* If you setup LDAP before package install then it'll just work with
"dynamic" GIDs.
* If you still think you need a static GID, you need to give a better
reason than just "it might be easier". Eg. shared storage.
* Seems that people do use --with/--without for bootstrapping … so we
can't just get rid of it. A new policy to vote on that has a
changable default and reacts to --with--without would be nice. Maybe
bcond?
* Given the scope of the bundling here, we need input from the other
package maintainers. At the very least they should have bundled()
provides, better would be to help unbundle this giant mess.
* what spot said in comment #8 makes sense to us; if you still want
this and that doesn't work, reopen.
* We have no problem changing this _if the tools work_. yum-builddep
doesn't, the dnf builddep rewrite also doesn't work. koschei which
is a new Fedora tool also relies on not having to download/extract
.src.rpm files.
* So if you want to change policy here someone will have to speak to
and work with all the tool authors to make sure the tools still
work, if they do then changing policy should be trivial.
* Bundling exception for FileMode in takari-archiver (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0)
People Present (lines said)
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* geppetto (164)
* tibbs|w (86)
* dgilmore (56)
* mizdebsk (39)
* mbooth (24)
* tomspur (17)
* racor (15)
* SmootherFrOgZ (8)
* zodbot (7)
* tibbs (0)
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