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>   1. Re: Mixer Wowes (William M. Quarles)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 22:20:32 -0400
> From: "William M. Quarles" <walrus at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: [Fedora-music-list] Re: Mixer Wowes
> To: fedora-music-list at redhat.com
> Cc: planetccrma at ccrma.stanford.edu
> Message-ID: <gu04ti$mpb$1 at ger.gmane.org>
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> David Timms wrote:
> > William M. Quarles wrote:
> >  > David Timms wrote:
> >  >> William M. Quarles wrote:
> >  >>> I have Fedora 10 and a machine with a (please, no laughing or
> >  >>> snickering) Creative Labs Sound Blaster AWE 64 Value sound card and
> a
> >  >>> Sigma Designs RealMagic Hollywood Plus DVD decoder card. While the
> >  >>> computer loads the ALSA drivers needed for both cards,
> >  >> As evidenced by ?
> >  >
> >  > Uh, as evidenced by lsmod? I'm not a newbie if that's what you're
> > implying.
> > Yes, but really was it an alsa util you used, lsmod or looking at /proc ?
>
> lsmod and /proc were used, and they were used before I wrote the
> original message, thank you.
>
>
> >  > [root at quarlewm ~]# lsmod
> > I suggested grep snd so that we would get sound related modules, not the
> > whole thing. It's just faster to look at the reduced version. I can
> > however see all the modules seem to be linked up.
>
> I know you did make that suggestion. I had different purposes in mind,
> as it seems you inadvertently stumbled upon them.
>
> >  >> I'm not sure which mod the awe needs, but check lsmod |grep snd
> >  >> Maybe fpaste.org your alsa-info results for others to check
> >  >
> >  > The AWE 64 cards use snd-sbawe module, which can be easily checked on
> >  > http://www.alsa-project.org/'s <http://www.alsa-project.org/%27s>sound card matrix.
> > Given that your asking for help, I probably won't be going searching
> > sites to try to find appropriate info; I'll ask you to, or you could
> > offer that info, and hence we know what you've tried.
> >
> >  > I have no idea what you mean by fpaste.org
> > One of many paste-bin web sites. These allow anonymous (you do need to
> > supply an email address that is used to limit bad usage of the site)
> > text upload site. It's really just a holder for bits of text from logs /
> > compiles etc that would unnecessarily fill up mailing list user's email
> > boxes.
> > http://fpaste.org is targeted towards Fedora users.
>
> Great, guess I'm a old fogey not up on the current trends. Then again, I
> did stop using GNU/Linux for about three or four years up until recently.
>
> I uploaded my alsa-info.txt to <http://fpaste.org/paste/11316>.
>
> >  >, but alsa-info does seem like
> >  > a good idea in this case; however it also unfortunately seems a little
> >  > useless since it reveals a great deal of output, but I can't copy and
> >  > paste any of it into this post
> > That's the point of the paste-bin, we don't really want large log files
> > in our email boxes.
>
> This stuff should all be in newsgroups anyway, that's why I am very glad
> to have found out about GMANE back around when Fedora Core 1 came out.
>
> >  > , and the final message upon exiting the program says:
> >  >
> >  >     Your ALSA information is located at
> >  >     Please inform the person helping you.
> >  >
> >  > So, uh, LOCATED AT big blank?
> > Yeah, that didn't work out well:
> > Your ALSA information is located at
> >
> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=23db04e4a7aeaa23357d00481f38b86638e90b21
> >
> > Please inform the person helping you.
> > $
> >
> > Well it normally pastes to the alsa project pastebin, and gives the link
> > (which worked for me). I'm guessing your internet/web access is normal,
> > so perhaps this is further indication of something going wrong during
> > alsa calls ?
>
> Define normal. I'm using a docked Win XP Pro laptop right now as a router.
>
> >  > Gee, diagnostic program.
> > has a --help capability:
> > alsa-info --help
> >   shows a debug option, that stores the large alsa log on your local
> > disk so that you could manually put it on a pastebin, and post the link
> > back here.
>
> I know that it has a help function, but I did not know that the debug
> option left the log file that we were looking for behind on the hard
> drive. It would make more sense to me if they did both a local dump and
> an upload simultaneously.
>
> However, since you suggested, I tried the debug option. The program left
> the file behind, but not where the help function said that it would
> leave it behind, so basically there is a bug in the debug function, or a
> bug in the help function. depending on your point of view I suppose.
>
> Curiosity, alsa-info is offering to update itself, which I didn't do in
> hear of breaking any Fedora customizations. Did you do the update? Would
> you suggest that I do the update?
>
> >  >>> the sound controls in GNOME only display the Hollywood+ controls,
> and
> >  >>> nothing is available for the AWE 64.
> > Bugger.
>
> You betcha.
>
> >  > [root at quarlewm ~]# alsamixer
> >  > ALSA lib pulse.c:272:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect:
> >  > Connection refused
> > If pulseaudio wasn't running, I think you would get a different error
> like:
> > $ alsamixer
> > E: socket-client.c: socket(): Address family not supported by protocol
> >  > alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: Connection
> refused
>
> alsamixer decided to work today. ;-) Or maybe it was Pulseaudio, which
> is new to me. Same stuff as in the GNOME mixer, unfortuntely.
>
> >  > [root at quarlewm ~]# alsaunmute
> >  > Unknown hardware: "SB AWE" "CTL1745" "CTL1745" "" ""
> >  > Hardware is initialized using a guess method
> >  > /lib/alsa/init/default:17: unable to convert dB value '-20dB' to
> >  > internal integer range
> > Mine:
> > $ alsaunmute
> > Unknown hardware: "CA0106" "" "" "" ""
> > Hardware is initialized using a guess method
> > $
>
> alsaunmute behaved the same as yesterday, pretty much.
>
> > I guess aplay wont work either ?
>
> It doesn't seem to... then again I don't have a file on hand for it to
> play.
>
> > alsamixer -c0 ?
>
> Wow, that's the spirit! So how do I get the GNOME sound stuff to
> recognize it?
>
> > ps aux|grep -E 'pad|pav|pul'
> >
> > I'm assuming playback is a problem as well, not just mixer control ?
>
> Well, now that alsamixer is working, yes, I am getting sound. Do you
> know how to fix the GNOME mixer issues?
>
> > Do you have the option to try without the decoder card installed, for a
> > giggle ?
> >
> > DaveT.
> >
>
> Yeah, I can give that a shot, I'll get back to you on it. But please,
> give me a reply to what I have written here already before I do.
>
> Thanks,
> William
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 22:52:50 -0400
> From: "William M. Quarles" <walrus at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: [Fedora-music-list] Re: Mixer Wowes
> To: fedora-music-list at redhat.com
> Cc: planetccrma at ccrma.stanford.edu
> Message-ID: <gu06q4$pv6$1 at ger.gmane.org>
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> William M. Quarles wrote:
> > David Timms wrote:
> <snip>
> >> I'm assuming playback is a problem as well, not just mixer control ?
> >
> > Well, now that alsamixer is working, yes, I am getting sound. Do you
> > know how to fix the GNOME mixer issues?
> >
>
> OK, unfortunately, the sound that I am getting from XMMS playing MP3
> files is intermittently distorted, and is somehow actually coming from
> the decoder card instead of the sound card, then getting passed through
> to the sound card via the internal patch cable that I have installed. I
> checked this by using alsamixer to vary the volume on the sound card's
> CD input, and also by varying the volume on the decoder card.
>
> >> Do you have the option to try without the decoder card installed, for a
> >> giggle ?
> >>
> >> DaveT.
> >>
> >
> > Yeah, I can give that a shot, I'll get back to you on it. But please,
> > give me a reply to what I have written here already before I do.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > William
> >
>
> Haven't gotten around to that yet still, I'll probably try it tomorrow.
>
>
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