[Bug 554243] Review Request: moovida - Media Center

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--- Comment #35 from Graeme Gillies <ggillies at redhat.com> 2010-07-18 18:39:16 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #33)
> (In reply to comment #32)
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I apologise for not replying to this ticket sooner. 
> 
> Hi Graeme,
> 
> Glad to hear you're still interested, sometimes closing a bug will elicit a
> response... :)
> 
> > I was keeping an eye on it,
> > but I was holding off doing any more work on packaging moovida as moovida 2.0
> > had been anounced and the linux port released to limited testing, and I wanted
> > to see the feasibility of packaging that for fedora instead. Unfortunately due
> > to licensing and fluendo's resistance to releasing pure tarballs, it looks like
> > moovida 2.0 probably won't be making it into fedora anytime soon. 
> 
> Can you briefly outline the issues with Moovida 1.0?  Did they change the
> license?  Can we cherry-pick stuff from their SVN/Git repo or whatever they use
> even if they don't release proper tarballs?

Sorry Should have clarified. Moovida 1.0 is the same license and still has
proper tarballs, nothing has changed, and thus there is nothing wrong with
putting moovida 1.0 into Fedora.

> 
> > On top of
> > this, moovida 1.0 is no longer formerly supported by fluendo, so getting futher
> > updates or bugs fixed in moovida may be tricky.
> 
> If that's the case, perhaps we could consider moving moovida to RPM Fusion
> (assuming licensing would be OK for RPM Fusion)?  It seems like a lot of work
> to get 1.x into Fedora if it isn't going to be maintained upstream.

More than happy to move this into RPM Fusion if that's what people feel is the
most appropriate place.

> 
> > I was also away for the last 3 weeks on holiday which is why I didn't reply
> > straight away.
> > 
> > Anyway I have had a look over the spec files and the comments above and have
> > fixed the outstanding problems raised. I have created new rpms for both
> > moovida, and the good and bad plugins packages (see the other bugs for the
> > other packages).
> > 
> > moovida.spec
> > http://ggillies.fedorapeople.org/moovida.spec
> > 
> > moovida-1.0.9-3.fc13.src.rpm
> > http://ggillies.fedorapeople.org/moovida-1.0.9-3.fc13.src.rpm
> > 
> > I'm still keen to get 1.0 into fedora, and I am re-opening this review in the
> > hopes of taking up Hans de Goede's offer of review and sponsorship    
> 
> I guess there's no harm in getting into Fedora, however we may have to think
> about the long-term if we end up moving it to RPM Fusion later.
> 
> Aside: It was annoying that they changed the name from elisa for no good
> reason, creating churn (like the need for this re-review in the first place),
> now they are retooling again so soon?  What's fluendo's strategy here? (feel
> free to e-mail me offline since this is a bit off-topic for the review request)    

I don't profess to know things 100%, buy understanding is the name change and
the complete rewrite for 2.0 is part of a strategy that was developed when
Fluendo was acquired by another company (not 100% sure of this). Although
www.fluendo.com maintains their linux focus, representatives at Moovida have
come out and said that they are primarily focussing on the windows platform for
Moovida 2.0, and at the moment there is no source code available for either
windows or linux platforms (just packages for Ubuntu).

On top of this, the rather confusing post at [1] (see comments) implies that
their work on Moovida 2.0 won't have source code made available and it will be
under a more closed license, meaning there is little chance of it getting into
Fedora.

There seems to be enough general interest in Moovida 1.0 to get it packaged for
Fedora, and I am constantly on the lookout for a project looking to fork
Moovida 1.0 and continue, but ultimately if the lack of a real solid upstream
for fixes etc. is an issue we may have to abandon this package review or move
it into RPM Fusion

[1] http://www.moovida.com/blog/2010/04/30/moovida-2-0-a-new-beginning/

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