[Bug 771252] Review Request: cinnamon - Window management and application launching for GNOME

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Mon May 21 18:41:40 UTC 2012


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=771252

Trevor Pott <trevor.p at astlor.ca> changed:

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--- Comment #39 from Trevor Pott <trevor.p at astlor.ca> ---
I have to echo comment 38's thoughts.  As a developer I have reservations about
the inclusion of any packages that don't show a strong upstream maintenance
ethos.  As a systems administrator, those same concerns ring true once more; if
I am to begin deployment of a Cinnamon-based Fedora to certain users, I want a
package set that is so well maintained it has a reasonable chance of making it
into RHEL eventually, and serving as the replacement for Gnome 2.

That said, this isn't RHEL.  It is Fedora.  This is where new projects, package
sets and so forth come to be tested out.  For Cinnamon to grow, there needs be
momentum.  Momentum that brings Redhat-based distributions to the forefront of
the upstream maintainers' minds.  

As a Linux user, I find Gnome 3 flat out completely unacceptable.  It might as
well be Unity or WinRT/Metro.  I will not use it.  Nor will the majority of my
supported install base.  This is something that we know exists as an issue;
there has been strong pushback from all over the IT community and userbase
against all three of these UIs.

As developers, systems administrators and distribution maintainers we cannot
allow ourselves to fall into the trap of telling vast swathes of our userbase
“just use what we put in front of you, we know better than you.”  

Users are not proles; and they are not the enemy.

So I argue that the inclusion of the Cinnamon package set is indeed critical. 
It is critical if for no other reason than that of staying true to the very
core ideal of Free and Open Source Software: choice.

Does the Fedora project tell it’s user base “if you want Cinnamon/Gnome 2 style
desktops, go elsewhere,” thus forcing users, sysadmins and developers to become
familiar with the quirks and intricacies of Debian, leaving the Red Hat
ecosystem behind forever?  

Or does the Fedora project hold true to choice, retain these wayward users and
try to grow the community support for Cinnamon, allowing this highly popular
alternative to eventually become a first class citizen and move the totality of
the Red Hat ecosystem forward?

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