[Fedora-packaging] Re: paragraph on shipping static numerical libs

[Axel Thimm]

On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 04:17:39PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 09:49 -0400, Ed Hill wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 May 2007 13:46:03 +0200 Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 11:47 +0200, Axel Thimm wrote:
> > > > On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 10:15:01AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 09:44 +0200, Patrice Dumas wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 09:34:20AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > >  In general scientists do coding 
> > > > > > just fine but don't want to do more nor even think about it (no 
> > > > > > packaging, no thoughts on system administration...).
> > > > > Well, in 90% of all such cases, "their coding" goes into
> > > > > implementing complex algorithms, while their programs complexity
> > > > > is not much different from "hello world".
> > > > 
> > > > This sounds quite arrogant.
> > > 
> > > Feel free to think what you want - These number cruncher guys apps
> > > condense down to a 
> > > 
> > > READ STDIN
> > > CALL ALGORITHM
> > > PRINT STDOUT
> > > 
> > > Their typical usage:
> > > 
> > > ./myapp < inputdata >output
> > > ... wait <couple of days> ...
> > > lpr output
> > 
> > 
> > Oh Ralf, you're such a sweetheart!  Bursting with optimism about
> > all of human-kind!  :-)
> > 
> > Yes, some scientists/engineers are dreadful coders and should never be
> > allowed to admin any systems, not even small one-button toaster ovens.
> > Some are brilliant coders and/or admins who develop novel algorithms/
> > approaches and build/manage their own clusters.  Many fall somewhere
> > between those two extremes.
> > 
> > Your "condense down" comments are just silly.  Really... silly...
> 
> Thank you, very much - I must have been living on a different planet
> than you for the last 15 years.

From the way you describe the scientific community this seems quite
possible.

> I must have been watching a different kind of scientists, blocking
> networks and machines with their number crunching jobs over all
> these years ...

Well ... the networks and machines are there for doing number crunching
and not mp3, games, i18n and whatnot.
-- 
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
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