[Fedora-packaging] input on a conflicts case

Toshio Kuratomi a.badger at gmail.com
Mon May 9 23:44:53 UTC 2011

On Sat, May 07, 2011 at 10:11:38AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Greetings. 
> I'm looking at the supybot-gribble package (under review).
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=693664
> Currently it Conflicts: supybot. 
> It's not really falling under any of the current cases on 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Conflicts
> but I think it might be another case to add next to compat packages. 
> Background: 
> supybot is a irc bot written in python. It's already in Fedora.
> Development is very slow. Currently many of the database functions in
> it don't work because they still haven't switched from sqlite1 for
> example. We also have several plugins that use it. 
> supybot-gribble is a blessed rapid development fork. Changes here are
> fast paced and much more current. Once patches here look good and
> stable they are submitted back to the main supybot branch. It's much
> like a 'supybot-rawhide' or devel. 
> The two packages share the name and python tree files. Upstream has no
> desire to rename things in supybot-gribble as this will make it harder
> to fold changes back into supybot. There is no great need to run both
> at the same time on the same machine. 
> In the review I suggested we just let them conflict and setup the
> plugins so they would work with either (require /usr/bin/supybot). To
> me this seems like an acceptable Conflicts case related to the 'compat
> packages' case, except in this case it's 'newer/rawhide/ng version'. 
> Thoughts? Flames? 

Alternative: Let's upgrade the supybot package in Fedora to use
supybot-gribble instead.

Thoughts on the pros and cons of that vs a conflicting package?

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