[Bug 741777] Bogus requires on perl-devel from perl-tk

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--- Comment #5 from Ralf Corsepius <rc040203 at freenet.de> 2011-10-13 00:43:54 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #4)
> Only a half-hearted objection - I don't care too much about perl-Tk. 
> 
> But Tk::MMutil is nothing more than a Tk-specific EU::MM extension. Nothing
> explicitly requires or buildrequires it.
Right - Minor packaging bugs.

> Only a couple of perl-Tk packages
> (perl-Tk-ProgressBar-Mac and perl-Tk-TableMatrix) expect it to be there at
> build time due to BR perl(Tk)
Thanks for pointing out these 2 packages.

Besides these 2, I haven't found any further packages using perl(Tk/MMutil),
yet (But I am still checking).

> - and however you resolve this, both would need
> to be updated as a result (unless you do nothing, of course).
Right - Such packages will be facing FTBS's during the next FTBS round or the
next perl mass rebuild. 

> I think it would be slightly more obvious for builds to fail because EU::MM is
> missing rather than Tk::MMutil is missing. Pretty much everyone knows what to
> do if EU::MM is missing at build time (just BR EU::MM). Missing Tk::MMutil
> could easily lead to "WTF is Tk::MMutil?" <check on CPAN> "WTF? It's part of
> Tk, and perl-Tk is installed, but Tk::MMutil is missing!!".
Well, isn't that the usual "devel<->runtime" complaint? Nothing to worry much
about, IMO.

> Bottom line, yes, perl-Tk should strictly require EU::MM.
I do not agree. No "mere run-time module" should require EU::MM nor should any
of these require perl-devel. In case of perl(Tk), it's only Tk::MMutil which
pulls in EU::MM and perl-devel.

That said, to me, splitting out Tk/MMutil, is just an ordinary
"devel<->runtime" package split with all the "usual issues" attached.

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