Fwd: F13 Schedule Proposal--please RESPOND

[John Poelstra]

On 11/12/2009 07:00 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> John Poelstra (poelstra at redhat.com) said:
>>>> For the past couple of releases there was been two weeks between the
>>>> freeze date and the public release date. We need two weeks to
>>>> include a "Test Compose"--granted I don't believe we were able to
>>>> create any of the Test Composes on time (something we should examine
>>>> when creating the F13 schedule).
>>>
>>> I don't understand this reasoning. The desired work flow, as I understand
>>> it, is something like:
>
> ...
>> What you describe above is NOT what we scheduled or attempted for
>> Fedora 12.  We intentionally scheduled test composes before the
>> freeze (as Jesse is requesting for the Fedora 13 schedule)
>> http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-releng-tasks.html
>> --see task #13 for Alpha
>> --see task #52 for Beta
>
> I stand corrected. I'm still not sure that delivering pre-freeze
> test composes should affect the length of the freezes.
>
> Bill

I'm not sure either.  History has shown, that we have a hard time doing 
multiple things at the same time.  I wasn't advocating extending the 
freezes to accommodate the Test Composes, but instead the Public Testing 
Duration of Alpha and Beta--time when releng and others aren't so 'hair 
on fire' before preparing the next Public release :)  This would (going 
back to a prior discussion) increase the total time between the public 
release of Alpha and Beta.

I'll try to come up with a new schedule scenario or two (factoring in 
the things we've discussed here) to see if that can bring everyone 
closer to agreement.  I'll post them here by Monday, hopefully sooner.

John