RFC: Proposal for Rel-Eng project management/planning

[David Gay]

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Miller" <maxamillion at fedoraproject.org>
> To: rel-eng at lists.fedoraproject.org, oddshocks at fedoraproject.org
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 11:55:31 AM
> Subject: Re: RFC: Proposal for Rel-Eng project management/planning
> 
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer at fedoraproject.org>
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Ralph Bean <rbean at redhat.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 10:58:34AM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:25:36AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >>> > On Fri, 24 Apr 2015 09:36:46 -0500
> >>> > Adam Miller <maxamillion at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> >>> > > My hope here is to introduce a new piece of infrastructure to fill
> >>> > > this requirement that provides a kanban-style board of cards much
> >>> > > like
> >>> > > Trello[2] but using a FOSS solution that we can host ourselves. For
> >>> > > this I'd like to propose the use of Cantas[3]. (This part would
> >>> > > likely
> >>> > > need a request sent to Fedora Infrastructure team unless we're fine
> >>> > > just hosting it somewhere like OpenShift Online).
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Questions, comments and general snide remarks welcome! :)
> >>> >
> >>> > As mentioned in a followup, it would need to get packaged up, etc if we
> >>> > want to host one.
> >>>
> >>> I suggested to David Gay (oddshocks) that he look at this for
> >>> packaging.
> >>
> >> It looks like there are nodejs issues in the rawhide buildroot that
> >> will block packaging efforts here for the time being:
> >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/nodejs/2015-April/000176.html
> >
> > So, in one of my many discussions with Paul last week, we were talking
> > about containers, how we're approaching them in Fedora, etc.  One of
> > the ideas was that we should probably look at dogfooding container
> > technology within Fedora itself to become more comfortable with it.
> >
> > I know we like things to be packaged in Fedora and there is nothing
> > wrong with that.  However, deploying Cantas via a container would seem
> > to be an ideal thing to try as an initial dogfooding effort.  It would
> > let both rel-eng and Infra get used to the technologies while also
> > providing a valuable service to themselves.  What do people think of
> > that idea?
> 
> I'm open to the idea, I've been messing with containers for quite some
> time during my stint on the OpenShift Online team and would welcome
> bringing this technology into the rel-eng and infrastructure
> wheelhouse.
> 
> Also note, container building is another topic I'd like to bring up in
> terms of koji at some point (either something that gets added to
> current gen via some sort of patching/refactor or something that's
> taken into consideration for next-gen koji), but that's easily a
> larger topic for another thread. There's a lot of interesting
> development being done in this space in various upstream locations to
> handle layered image dependency chains, squashing of images for space
> savings, automatic detection of layers needing rebuilds for security
> updates, and all sorts of other topics.
> 
> tl;dr - +1 from me for containerizing, but I think that is a longer
> conversation than, "just slap it in docker and go"
> 
> -AdamM
> 
> > josh
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> 

Like Paul said, I'm happy to work on packaging Cantas. However, I don't have any experience with creating containers.

-- David