Redmine in Fedora?

[Jeroen van Meeuwen]

On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:36:11 AM Emanuel Rietveld wrote:
> Replying to list to get wider discussion.
> 
> > Posted by Bohuslav "Slavek" Kabrda on 2012-07-13 04:21:44 EDT
> > to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=825495
> > [Review Request: redmine]
> > 
> > Emanuel,
> > I'm not sure we want redmine in Fedora. It would make us always
> > have its specified version of rails. I don't think we want to
> > have our hands tied with that. What if we want to get rails 4
> > (when they get released) into Fedora and redmine still relies
> > on 3.2.3? This would limit us greatly, I have to say I am
> > against that.
> > 
> > A solution to your problem might be creating a software
> > collection [1], [2], which would be independent on system Gems
> > versions. Unfortunately, software collections are not allowed
> > into Fedora [3] - but I believe that if enough users would want
> > to use them for projects like this, FPC would allow them.
> > Redmine is a great candidate for a software collection, I think
> > 
> > [1]
> 
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Contributor_Documentation/1/html/
> Software_Collections_Guide/index.html
> > [2] https://fedorahosted.org/SoftwareCollections/
> > [3]
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Software_Collection_Macr
> os
> 
> What I want to achieve with this redmine package is:
> 
> - a high quality package by getting feedback from the community
> - an easy installation with sane defaults for redmine users
> 
> A software collection goes part of the way there, but has some
> disadvantages by not being a first class citizen of Fedora.
> 
> When the rails community drops support for rails version 3, it
> should not be wise to still run Redmine installations for rails 3.
> At that time, we should work with upstream to make redmine work
> on rails 4.
> 
> When rails 4 is released but rails 3 is still supported, I see no
> reason why we could not have rails 3 and rails 4 side by side in
> Fedora. We do it for packages like python too.
> 
> Do you think having redmine in Fedora would limit your freedom to
> move the Fedora versions at the same speed that the upstream
> community is moving? Why? Should this problem be solved in Fedora
> or in the application (redmine upstream)? How can a package
> maintainer help?
> 

Hi Emanuel,

I applaud your efforts to get Redmine packaged and included in Fedora proper.

Yes, there may be problems with Rails 3 being dropped and Redmine not being 
supported on Rails 4.

The goal here (in the Fedora realm) is supposed to be to make it work, rather 
than have it work rightout, and have people collaborate in making it so, 
rather than ship some sort of ideal SOHO server platform - and that's the 
spirit. If you're willing to take on Redmine compability with Rails (with help 
of others), and leave Rails free to move from one compatible version to some 
incompatible version, I see no problem.

I'm looking forward to the EPEL packages ;-)

Kind regards,

Jeroen van Meeuwen

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