proposed text for crypto-policies in Packaging Guidelines

Eric H. Christensen sparks at fedoraproject.org
Fri Aug 8 14:30:01 UTC 2014


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On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 04:11:51PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 08.08.2014 um 15:44 schrieb Eric H. Christensen:
> > On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 03:36:51PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> >> Am 08.08.2014 um 15:21 schrieb Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos:
> >>> Postfix is a different kind of beast though. It does not typically use
> >>> TLS, but uses some kind of opportunistic security that allows anonymous
> >>> ciphersuites. So it's a bit hard to enforce anything there, as
> >>> man-in-the-middle attacks are possible by design
> > 
> >> and keep in mind in case of opportunistic TLS if you restrict
> >> ciphers and the SMTP client don't support what you offer it
> >> falls back to completly plaintext which defeats the intention
> > 
> > Falling back to an insecure cipher only provides a false sense of security 
> > which isn't any better than plaintext.
> 
> you *can not* enforce ciphers for opportunistic TLS - period
> because that is the nature of *opportunistic*

I agree with your assessment, however, ordering the ciphers that are to be used can still be done.

- -- Eric

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Eric "Sparks" Christensen
Red Hat, Inc - Product Security

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